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Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by tclancy »

frellus wrote: post #72

I kid you not, there was a movie with Sean Connery called "Medicine Man" (1992) with this exact same theme. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104839/?ref_=fn_t_1 In it, Connery finds what looks to be a rare natural cure to all cancer in the Rain Forest (spoiler: not a frog, but equally as weird), and is literally battling the nearby deforesting and bulldozers. For a Sean Connery movie it was bizarre (As a young teen, I s…

>For a Sean Connery movie it was bizarre

Buddy, if you're trying to tell me it's weirder than Darby O'Gill and the Little People, I am going to need more than Sir Connery in a ponytail.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by adrian_b »

jdross wrote: post #65
sevenzero wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Resource exploitation and destruction of ecosystems are direct results of capitalism and greed and neglect. I stopped bringing up arguments against capitalism on here generally due to the sheer amount of people in privileged circumstances that wouldn't change a thing about their ways. Also doesn't help that people in tech often times have no sense of empathy whatsoever, so its no use to argue about this on here.

Socialist Russia was an environmental disaster. https://www.gchumanrights.org/preparedness/the-environmental...

The so-called socialist economies were just the extreme form of monopolistic capitalism.

As a child, I experienced the reality of "socialism", where every word used by the ruling elites meant something very different from what it was claimed to mean.

Unfortunately, already for more than a quarter of century USA and most "capitalistic" countries every year become more and more alike to the former socialist countries, from all points of view, like great wealth inequality, markets dominated by quasi-monopolies, non-existent political opposition, mass surveillance of the population, confusing propaganda in all mass-media, less and less chances to afford to truly be the owner of many kinds of things, like houses, cars or computers. If your car or your computer or your smartphone or your TV set do whatever their vendor or the government want, instead of doing what you want, then obviously you are not their owner.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by tclancy »

Leonard_of_Q wrote: post #54
romx-cell wrote: post #42

We are destroying ecosystems so fast that there will be no frogs and we will regret it. The same with all the nature

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Oh no, she cares about two pressing issues at the same time! Clearly just a tourist.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by slibhb »

romx-cell wrote: post #42

We are destroying ecosystems so fast that there will be no frogs and we will regret it. The same with all the nature

There will, in fact, continue to be frogs.

One theory of where posts like this come from: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2527316123

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by tclancy »

hootz wrote: post #37
functionmouse wrote: post #8

Mice are having a great year

To be honest, they are pretty cute, they don't deserve cancer.

Spoken like someone who has never had to rebuild a generator or find out the hard way car wiring is mainly soy-based nowadays.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by theultdev »

adrian_b wrote: post #82
jdross wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialist Russia was an environmental disaster. https://www.gchumanrights.org/preparedness/the-environmental...

The so-called socialist economies were just the extreme form of monopolistic capitalism. As a child, I experienced the reality of "socialism", where every word used by the ruling elites meant something very different from what it was claimed to mean. Unfortunately, already for more than a quarter of century USA and most "capitalistic" countries every year become more and more alike to the former socialist countries,…

fancy way of saying "communism has never been done properly before."

yeah well that's because the execution matters and turns out when you give people power to choose who gets what, they abuse it. go figure.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

tclancy wrote: post #81
frellus wrote: post #72

I kid you not, there was a movie with Sean Connery called "Medicine Man" (1992) with this exact same theme. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104839/?ref_=fn_t_1 In it, Connery finds what looks to be a rare natural cure to all cancer in the Rain Forest (spoiler: not a frog, but equally as weird), and is literally battling the nearby deforesting and bulldozers. For a Sean Connery movie it was bizarre (As a young teen, I s…

>For a Sean Connery movie it was bizarre Buddy, if you're trying to tell me it's weirder than Darby O'Gill and the Little People, I am going to need more than Sir Connery in a ponytail.

> I am going to need more than Sir Connery in a ponytail

Check out Zardoz: Connery with a ponytail, a pistol in hand, wearing thigh-high boots and a mankini.

And a giant flying stone head that vomits guns.

I am not joking.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

gus_massa wrote: post #52

Previus discussion (from the university press release) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46306894 (498 points | 6 months ago | 140 comments) I'll rehash my comment They used mice, because they are good for early tries. The researchers had 9 bacterias and only 1 was successful. Experiments in mice are cheaper and have less ethical problems than experiments in humans. (Hey! They even injected the cancer cells in mic…

> and have less ethical problems than experiments in humans

More like, what's a mouse gonna do about it?

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

gus_massa wrote: post #52

Previus discussion (from the university press release) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46306894 (498 points | 6 months ago | 140 comments) I'll rehash my comment They used mice, because they are good for early tries. The researchers had 9 bacterias and only 1 was successful. Experiments in mice are cheaper and have less ethical problems than experiments in humans. (Hey! They even injected the cancer cells in mic…

I think you overestimate the "interesting enough period". How much would it be worth for some patients to go into remission for a year? or even 6 months? The answer is a lot

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

tclancy wrote: post #85
hootz wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, they are pretty cute, they don't deserve cancer.

Spoken like someone who has never had to rebuild a generator or find out the hard way car wiring is mainly soy-based nowadays.

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