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BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by xnx »

brotchie wrote: post #12
rho138 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holding tesla to the same standard as waymo is a wild take.

I've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.

Do you think Tesla could do 20 million truly unsupervised rides without killing someone?

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by Markoff »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #7

It’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.

I mean compared to the other BMW tanks this looks actually slightly less like tank

I guess people would buy it just for the brand with whatever design, personally I find current BMW tank design the worst in last 30-40 years I am watching car design

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by [deleted] »

lokar wrote: post #26
bluGill wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is o evidence the typical EV will need a battery replacement within its useful life. The Leaf is the only EV with that problem, everyone else so far seems to be doing well as a battery is a lifetime part. Only time will tell, but that is what our current data says. I'm sure there will be exceptions but they are collectors who keep a car for 100 years.

There have been a few highly publicized situations where the pack gets damaged (road damage), and is not covered. The replacement is more the new car. I think it’s overblown. A combination of it all just being new and getting figured out, and manufacturers selling the cars at a loss (for various reasons), but not the spare parts.

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Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by Markoff »

jonshariat wrote: post #14
simonbarker87 wrote: post #7

It’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.

I am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.

TBH even ICE BMWs from recent years all look like fugly tanks

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by xnx »

logancbrown wrote: post #22
gruntled-worker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waymo has a lead. Tesla's lead is about the same as a Roomba's. Seriously though, if you're considering an EV, please give the traditional US/EU/JP/KR automakers a chance. Don't try to help the planet in one way while staking its heart in another.

>Tesla's lead is about the same as a Roomba's. What is this supposed to mean? Tesla and Roomba are in separate industries.

People often think that Tesla is neck-and-neck with Waymo, but Waymo does 500,000 unsupervised rides/week and Tesla has done 0 ... ever.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by vel0city »

lokar wrote: post #26
bluGill wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is o evidence the typical EV will need a battery replacement within its useful life. The Leaf is the only EV with that problem, everyone else so far seems to be doing well as a battery is a lifetime part. Only time will tell, but that is what our current data says. I'm sure there will be exceptions but they are collectors who keep a car for 100 years.

There have been a few highly publicized situations where the pack gets damaged (road damage), and is not covered. The replacement is more the new car. I think it’s overblown. A combination of it all just being new and getting figured out, and manufacturers selling the cars at a loss (for various reasons), but not the spare parts.

Isn't that also true if the engine and transmission also took significant road damage and requires replacement on an ICE BMW?

Breaking news: expensive components of cars are expensive.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by lokar »

vel0city wrote: post #38
lokar wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been a few highly publicized situations where the pack gets damaged (road damage), and is not covered. The replacement is more the new car. I think it’s overblown. A combination of it all just being new and getting figured out, and manufacturers selling the cars at a loss (for various reasons), but not the spare parts.

Isn't that also true if the engine and transmission also took significant road damage and requires replacement on an ICE BMW? Breaking news: expensive components of cars are expensive.

They are expensive, but rarely more than the car is new.

And in the account I read they had simply run over some unknown road debris on a highway. Something most people could imagine happening to them.

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