...except self driving, where Tesla and Waymo have enormous leads
I have an iX, the predecessor for these. The freeway automatic mode works well, that’s all I really want.
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#22...except self driving, where Tesla and Waymo have enormous leads
Waymo has a lead. Tesla's lead is about the same as a Roomba's. Seriously though, if you're considering an EV, please give the traditional US/EU/JP/KR automakers a chance. Don't try to help the planet in one way while staking its heart in another.
>Tesla's lead is about the same as a Roomba's.
What is this supposed to mean? Tesla and Roomba are in separate industries.
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#23...except self driving, where Tesla and Waymo have enormous leads
Only had a handful of Waymo experiences but a lot more with Tesla. Tesla may be leading but is still not great. Driven over 100k miles in autopilot and roughly 30k in FSD miles, you still need manual intervention about 5-10 percent of the time for various reasons.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Holding tesla to the same standard as waymo is a wild take.
I've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.
I'm curious what is in your rubric to determine that a self driving car that doesn't need supervision is a worse driver than a car that does, by your own admission, need supervision.
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#25It’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.
I am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.
It's also just a ginormous hunk of metal. Which also makes the long range kinda moot, strapping a bigger battery will of course result in a bigger range. I'm guessing the car doesn't make any improvements on the efficiency?
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#26how much is the battery to replace ? did anybody fix that ?
There is o evidence the typical EV will need a battery replacement within its useful life. The Leaf is the only EV with that problem, everyone else so far seems to be doing well as a battery is a lifetime part. Only time will tell, but that is what our current data says. I'm sure there will be exceptions but they are collectors who keep a car for 100 years.
There have been a few highly publicized situations where the pack gets damaged (road damage), and is not covered. The replacement is more the new car.
I think it’s overblown. A combination of it all just being new and getting figured out, and manufacturers selling the cars at a loss (for various reasons), but not the spare parts.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Holding tesla to the same standard as waymo is a wild take.
I've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.
What worries me is that FSD in Tesla does seems to sometimes introduce problems in the driving behavior with new updates. I have not experienced this first hand ( don't own one ) but I am following the r/TeslaFSD and it looks like new versions are sometimes regressing on situations that were handled correctly on older versions.
This leads me to believe that FSD is not yet solved to the level we thought and training to handle a certain new thing correcty can degrade handling of other situations
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#28Realistically $100k for a 5 series.
Well, it's an X5 competitor, and it's apparently only $10k more than the base ICE version. Considering this is the extended range EV version, that's not terrible. TFA says pricing for the regular-range version has not been announced yet. I will be curious to see where it comes in, since this the extended range version is only $2,500 more than the PHEV. Not a lot of wiggle room in there!
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Holding tesla to the same standard as waymo is a wild take.
I've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.
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