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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by justin66 »

dijit wrote: post #534
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #359

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Spot the odd one out: > Some of its key issues include lowered wages for politicians, ending the tax payer funding of various sculptures, monuments and art, large scale remigration, a stricter immigration policy, and free dental care.

To understand why there might be a desire to limit spending on art; There was a recent case where city of Malmo was building a hospital; during the building of the hospital it was decided that a splice of the oldest tree in the world would be installed. A very expensive life-support system was developed and an enormous amount of money paid for the splice. (not including the life support system, which was also an inor…

I hope you don't think that is the odd one out.

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Post by kgwxd »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #571
kgwxd wrote: post #405

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> This is what allows us to advance our common causes. Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment is also liberating and promotes truth seeking. Nope, that is what will get you taken over by the assholes. Reasonable defense is necessary in reality. There ARE bad actors, they must be kept out.

Everyone has their own definition of a bad actor. The fact that you're implying to know how to spot them says a lot about your tolerance for differences in opinion.

You would have been so much better off just ending on the, already obvious BS, part about how his views aren't the companies. Instead, you went on to downplay the obvious problem.

Mullvad was one of the last products I felt I could honestly recommend, and feel good about. Never falling for this garbage again. The world is complete shit right now.

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Post by MegagramEnjoyer »

ciefa wrote: post #346
kamaitachi wrote: post #134

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Hi Fredrik I’m a long time Mullvad customer, likely paid Mullvad upward of 400€ in the past number of years, as well as recommended it to friends and family members. What you seem to be missing in your comment, is that some of that money I paid, found its way to support an organisation that has extreme racist views. I’ve reached out to support and requested a refund of my outstanding credit. I’ll be moving on.

Where will you move to? Are there any alternatives left? For me, Proton isn't one.. not sure what else there is.

IVPN, NymVPN

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Post by tomhow »

ironneat wrote: post #659
sph wrote: post #540

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The post linked has been removed, so I don't know what more we can speculate upon, 650+ comments in. It's strange to see HN mods allow this much attention to a political, and contentious issue.

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The guidelines still apply here. Comments that are inflammatory should be flagged/killed and repeat/egregious offenders should be banned.

In the case of your past account: we happily unban accounts when people establish a track record of contributing positively. We don’t hold grudges and indeed we welcome it when users reform their style of participation.

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Post by khriss »

kfreds wrote: post #828
khriss wrote: post #680

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Fredrik, thank you for a clear and honest statement of Mullvad's position rather than corporate word salad. > Mullvad protects the right for people to express things we don't agree with. We protect the right of everyone to access views we don't agree with. > That said, if you no longer want to be a Mullvad customer for philosophical reasons, we think it's important to honor that Combining the above statements, would…

Hi! No worries. I haven't spoken with Nick Pestell of IVPN in ages, but he's always struck me as genuine and empathetic. We met the first time at RightsCon in 2018 I believe. TunnelBear and ExpressVPN were also there. We all wrote this thing together: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2018/10/17/signals-trustworthy-v... Since those conversations I've always thought that IVPN is closest aligned with Mullvad's values. Again,…

Thank you! I wasn't even aware that IVPN existed.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

throwawaypath wrote: post #855

There's nothing wrong with promoting or protecting the interests of native or indigenous people over those of immigrants or foreigners. This is not a far-right fringe belief, though some are trying to paint it so.

Where do you have documentation of this party even doing this thing? The Wikipedia entry linked elsewhere does not talk about this perspective at all

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Post by gulbanana »

kfreds wrote: post #555
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

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So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

Allow me to provide some nuance. I cannot speak for Daniel. I know there are some policies he likes and there are things he doesn’t like. Personally I am not a fan. This morning Daniel explained his rationale to most of the company. Speaking for myself, I don’t like that he made this donation and I know this view is shared by many of my colleagues. Speaking as the co-CEO of Mullvad, we will continue to protect the un…

When Mullvad's revenue is used to harm people, why should its customers feel safe?

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Post by AliChraghi »

gpvos wrote: post #731
kfreds wrote: post #641

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I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, Daniel and I own 50% each. > obviously Berntsson has every right to his opinions and to express them Indeed. > and I also appreciate that someone can have control over an opinionated company and run it for one particular set of reasons but not for other causes that someone believes in That is exactly the case. > but in the end I just don't want my money supporting anti-people causes. As i…

I would like to add one note: if I were an activist in Iran, or in any other way my livelihood would depend on strong privacy services, I might keep using your service and even be (slightly) more certain of the company's resolve to keep my privacy protected. Although I would be very aware of the irony. But choosing for one's own safety can override other concerns. Very few things in life are black and white.

Iranians use VPNs simply because they want to access the internet. Mullvad services are too expensive for what average people make so i don't think it really matters.

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Post by exiguus »

drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

In my understanding its far-right or right-wing and definitely a populist party. See also the Ideology Section from the link you added.
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