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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by reassess_blind »

Shortness8 wrote: post #294

Some commentary here: https://korben.info/en/mullvad-cofounder-funding-far-right.h... Daniel Berntsson is still involved with Mullvad and part-owns Mullvad's parent company with his co-founder.

That article calls the party far-right, which for US based readers will imply they have the same ideology and policies as the US “far-right” concepts.

Is that actually the case? I’m not familiar with this party, and it’s difficult to get a grasp on whether they are Nazi-level pure evil, or an otherwise reasonable party with stricter views on immigration policy.

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Post by _blk »

But that Bill Gates [Foundation] is a larger sponsor to WHO than all nations short of the US (at least prior to the currently elected govt) wouldn't dare making the news this far left into the interwebs... Just sayin' - figured I'd invest a few karma points into self reflection ;) love y'all

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Post by jimbokun »

drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

> Some of its key issues include lowered wages for politicians, ending the tax payer funding of various sculptures, monuments and art, large scale remigration, a stricter immigration policy, and free dental care.

Limiting immigration along with generous government benefits for citizens is an interesting new space for political parties not fitting the traditional left right axis.

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Post by throwa356262 »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #123
lightbulbish wrote: post #58

I'm Swedish, but never heard of Örebropartiet before. I tried looking into their website and it doesn't say a lot. Translated from Swedish wikipedia: --- Örebropartiet was founded by Markus Allard in the spring of 2014, when he was recently expelled from the Left Party and the Young Left. [...] Among the party's main issues are reduced politicians' salaries, reduced bureaucracy, civil servant responsibility, assimila…

I don't think it's reasonable to "demand" integration. What should happen is that the existing cultures should be open and welcoming enough so that new-comers want to take part. Also, I like the idea of immigrants bringing their culture with them (and in some cases, that may be the last representation of that culture) and welcoming people to learn about it. Multi-culturalism should be about championing different cult…

I think it is very reasonable to demand _some_ integration: get a job, pay taxes, learn the language as best as you can, don't do crime.

But at the same time, you should not be expected to give up your culture (as long as it is not doing something against the law).

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

BitWiseVibe wrote: post #355
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Thank you for everything you do Fredrik. Very happy to be a customer of a company that supports freedom and privacy for everyone regardless of views.

Thank you!

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Post by skjoldr »

therouwboat wrote: post #642
dijit wrote: post #575

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point to the charter where the Örebro party ever said that you don't deserve to live? The embellishments of what people actually believe is extremely exhausting. FWIW, I'm an immigrant in Sweden and if they gained power I would be affected, but we talk about people with differing views to us as if they're actively violent in order to shut down conversation. This catasphrophising language will eventually not h…

Its not that they start to feel numb, they didn't care in the first place. I have had random co-workers start talking about how they don't want foreigners in Finland and that in Sweden immigrants (maybe you) get free money and don't work.

Asylum seekers in the EU indeed get a monthly allowance and are prohibited from working. Is this not a known fact?

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Post by skjoldr »

vitally3643 wrote: post #630
dijit wrote: post #575

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point to the charter where the Örebro party ever said that you don't deserve to live? The embellishments of what people actually believe is extremely exhausting. FWIW, I'm an immigrant in Sweden and if they gained power I would be affected, but we talk about people with differing views to us as if they're actively violent in order to shut down conversation. This catasphrophising language will eventually not h…

Talking about how entire races of people deserve to be deported is active violence

Come to Ukraine and witness real "active violence". This is ridiculous.

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Post by kfreds »

khriss wrote: post #680
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Fredrik, thank you for a clear and honest statement of Mullvad's position rather than corporate word salad. > Mullvad protects the right for people to express things we don't agree with. We protect the right of everyone to access views we don't agree with. > That said, if you no longer want to be a Mullvad customer for philosophical reasons, we think it's important to honor that Combining the above statements, would…

Hi! No worries. I haven't spoken with Nick Pestell of IVPN in ages, but he's always struck me as genuine and empathetic. We met the first time at RightsCon in 2018 I believe. TunnelBear and ExpressVPN were also there. We all wrote this thing together: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2018/10/17/signals-trustworthy-v...

Since those conversations I've always thought that IVPN is closest aligned with Mullvad's values. Again, I haven't spoken with Nick in ages, so I don't know what IVPN is doing now.

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Post by kfreds »

newtonianrules wrote: post #348
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

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> What a dismissive way to treat your customer. Basically the equivalent of someone on the American right saying “if you don’t like it you can get the hell out”, which tracks given Mullvad’s party of choice.

I'm sorry to hear that. We didn't mean to come across as dismissive. We're simply saying that if you disagree with our stance on the matter, you are welcome to reach out to support, and they can hopefully sort out a refund.

> Mullvad’s party of choice

Daniel, not Mullvad.

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Post by 999900000999 »

Once I meet a Swedish girl whose parents were from XYZ.

She went on a rant on how new refugees from XYZ were ruining everything.

That’s the immigration debate in most of the world. The moment a new immigrant gets their citizenship they often feel they’re the last good one and all pathways need to be shutdown.

I’ll switch to a different vpn. It’s one thing to donate a nominal amount as a private citizen. It’s a whole different matter to be the primary source of funding.

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