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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by dang »

dreambuffer wrote: post #349
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Why does it say your comment was made 2 days ago, when the thread has only been up for 6 hours?

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48721551 and let us know if you have any questions.

(aftbit already mentioned this link downthread but perhaps it's helpful to say this explicitly.)

Edit: actually I should probably pin that to the top. Done now. Sorry for the confusion!

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by actionfromafar »

lancebeet wrote: post #479
pesus wrote: post #384

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It's not a "witch hunt" to be against ethnic cleansing and not want to financially support that.

I've never really gotten the impression that Allard or the Örebro party support ethnic cleansing. What makes you say this? I'm not sure if any of their suggested policies would even be considered that controversial outside of Sweden.

Hello MAGA.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by to11mtm »

newtonianrules wrote: post #377
nradov wrote: post #363

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Isn't that how all businesses operate? If customers don't like it then they can find an alternative vendor.

Yeah I just expected better of Mullvad as a long standing customer. They seemed pretty politically neutral which I prefer.

One could argue that 'politically neutral' could also be a policy they apply to their employees at all levels; i.e. if everyone gets along at the office and does their job, that's really all that matters.

If anything, respecting an employee's personal life privacy seems fairly in-line with the values one would want in a privacy-focused VPN company.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by something765478 »

yreg wrote: post #419
drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

>Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. To me too, then I got to the leaders quote on TV: "We must deport these damn parasites who sit and live at our expense." Yeah, okay. I know some politicians who speak like that, I feel I get the picture.

Funny, I usually hear that sentiment from left wing sources complaining about billionaires.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

mrhottakes wrote: post #334
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

Allow me to provide some nuance.

I cannot speak for Daniel. I know there are some policies he likes and there are things he doesn’t like. Personally I am not a fan.

This morning Daniel explained his rationale to most of the company. Speaking for myself, I don’t like that he made this donation and I know this view is shared by many of my colleagues. Speaking as the co-CEO of Mullvad, we will continue to protect the universal right to privacy. People should feel safe using Mullvad regardless of their political affiliation.

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Post by akimbostrawman »

kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

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Post by bentley »

vrganj wrote: post #427
storus wrote: post #360

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> When our enemies say: well, we gave you the freedom of opinion back then - yeah, you gave it to us , that's in no way evidence that we should return the favor! Your stupidity shall not be contagious! That you granted it to us is evidence of how dumb you are! -- Joseph Goebbels, 1935 The whole point is that fascist movements will abuse your tolerance to build themselves up to a position where they can take it away f…

Goebbels was an unreliable narrator who had strong incentive to promote the idea that freedom of speech makes a nation weak.

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Post by woodruffw »

daneel_w wrote: post #318
thepaulmcbride wrote: post #314

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There are literally dozens of us that either live outside the US or are from other countries

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Given that VPN services are essentially an unalloyed commodity, the only differentiator they can provide is their politics. Mullvad has made this a loud and clear part of their branding (again, because they’re selling a commodity), so to me this seems like a pretty natural counterpart to their business strategy.

In other words: if you use politics to differentiate yourself in a market that lacks natural differentiation, you probably shouldn’t be surprised when your consumers have opinions about your politics. Especially when those politics are, at least on their face, noxious.

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Post by wanderer2323 »

kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

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