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.self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by teraflop »

SahAssar wrote: post #97
dom96 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is by using ID verification similar to how I do it on https://onlyhumanhub.com/

So you have just built a wrapper around https://passportreader.app/ , which itself is reading NFC enabled ID/passports from specific countries. The coverage map is here: https://passportreader.app/coverage . Might be good to know that even in the US this approach would only work for ~50% of people, since a lot of people don't have passports. In most countries this does not work at all, since they don't issue NFC enab…

The "how it works" page for that website says that the ID data is "digitally signed by the issuing government". But there doesn't seem to be anything in the docs about how to get or verify that signature. So it seems like they are just asking users to trust them to do the verification.

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Post by cj »

s-skl wrote: post #160
cj wrote: post #123

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Magical indeed! I once mailed $70 cash (multiple months of allowance) to someone to code a MVP of something I wanted to build. They ripped me off and disappeared. And… that’s when I decided I needed to learn to code!

Somewhere out there is a developer telling this exact same story. ‘I once agreed to build an MVP for a kid who promised to mail me cash. Never showed up. And THAT’S when I decided to get a real job.’

Except I mailed the cash in advance! It’s okay, it was probably another 14 year old.

My parents were not happy when I told them I sent cash to a stranger. I remember having to do it in secret because they were very not okay with the idea that you can meet strangers online. Hah.

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Post by Sophira »

kemotep wrote: post #95
NewJazz wrote: post #86

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Oh god not this shit again. Inb4 they give away .docx

.zip was especially egregious. No one should have allowed that to happen.

There are three TLDs I block on my computer completely, and all of them are file extensions - .zip, .md, and .mov.

(Yes, the domain "readme.md" exists. Fortunately, whoever owns it is not using their power for evil and does not have any webserver there... but I'm not risking it.)

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

jerf wrote: post #151

I don't understand the naming scheme, or the apparent lack of it. I half expected it to be some sort of UUID which would at least makes sense. At one per person for 7 billion people that's a little under 33 bits. Make it a nice round 40 for a bit of future proofing (the scheme doesn't need to live forever) and to make a bit of space internally and that's 5 words from a 256-word list. That would seem to make a lot mor…

imho we should be able to register ipv6 as our identity.

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Post by KomoD »

HumanCCF wrote: post #139
madsushi wrote: post #124

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It costs ~$200,000 to apply for a TLD, and there's an ongoing renewal cost in the tens of thousands of USD.

For this application round, ICANN is running an Applicant Support Program, or ASP. The applicants seeking to apply for a TLD this round who qualify for the ASP will have a substantially reduced application fee, among other benefits. Our organization is one such org who has qualified for the ASP so we will not have to pay the full $227,000 application fee.

How much is the reduced fee then? As I understand it's somewhere between 75-85% less, which is still a lot of money.

Also, who is paying for the reduced fee, administrative and infra costs? And have you actually submitted gTLD application, or are you trying to crowdfund? Unclear to me.

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Post by zenoprax »

jerf wrote: post #151

I don't understand the naming scheme, or the apparent lack of it. I half expected it to be some sort of UUID which would at least makes sense. At one per person for 7 billion people that's a little under 33 bits. Make it a nice round 40 for a bit of future proofing (the scheme doesn't need to live forever) and to make a bit of space internally and that's 5 words from a 256-word list. That would seem to make a lot mor…

Controlling the TLD has its own benefits and drawbacks (managing email reputation, for example) but as a regular person I have more reason to trust `.cloud` than `.self` purely on the basis of proven continuity. My `.com` domain will almost certainly live as long as the internet does provided that I keep paying to renew.

Regardless, a UUID is probably the right call. It doesn't help with memorability but it's at least more stable than an IPv4/IPv6 address and can be hard-coded. I wonder if you would get a full zone or if it's just an A/AAAA record given their broader goals of email and VPN tunneling.

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Post by mort96 »

goldenarm wrote: post #35

Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

A friend almost failed an IT class because his website didn't render at all in IE6. This was during the time of IE9. The teacher just hadn't updated their browser in a long time.

I don't get how you get to be an IT teacher without knowing the most basic troubleshooting steps to get assignments to run.

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