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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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post #84

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What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP

10% apparently for .tk. I also remember .tv windfall, which is 8-9% of their GDP.

And the .sy boom until startups got enough heat for, you know, funding the Assad regime.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#123
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Double unlock. In the mid 2000’s, I moderated a domain name discussion forum in exchange for free hosting. “X forum posts per month = x gb of bandwidth” My goal was to post enough for them to give me WHM access so I could try to resell it. Those were the days.

Those were the days indeed. A big part for me is probably because I was a teen at the time with little responsibility, but getting to be a part of the wild west days of the internet was a magical experience.

Magical indeed!

I once mailed $70 cash (multiple months of allowance) to someone to code a MVP of something I wanted to build.

They ripped me off and disappeared.

And… that’s when I decided I needed to learn to code!

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#124

https://hccf.onmy.cloud/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/dot-self.... > Everyone entitled to a subdomain at no cost How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is this a loss leader for other services? Are you operating on a 100% donation model? > No parking, squatting, or reselling How do you plan to tell the difference between a parked/squatted domain and one in…

> How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is it actually a substantial expense? The TLD itself only has to publish the nameserver records, which generally have a TTL of about a day. A DNS response is a few hundred bytes. Big DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare would make requests for every actively used domain every day, but then cache them. Smaller…

It costs ~$200,000 to apply for a TLD, and there's an ongoing renewal cost in the tens of thousands of USD.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is it actually a substantial expense? The TLD itself only has to publish the nameserver records, which generally have a TTL of about a day. A DNS response is a few hundred bytes. Big DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare would make requests for every actively used domain every day, but then cache them. Smaller…

It costs ~$200,000 to apply for a TLD, and there's an ongoing renewal cost in the tens of thousands of USD.

That's definitely not a cartel then.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#126
post #53

Hold up...why isn't .self listed here: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db Is this just an idea at this point, or some kind of "you have to use our DNS to resolve .self domains" scheme - ?

Domain names are not centralized, there is no central entity that controls an approved list of kosher domains.

This is practically useless information (and I don't mean that in the flippant "of low regard" slang sense, I mean a literal "this information becomes irrelevant once you look at what practically applying it does" sense). E.g.:

- Centralized authorities for IP & DNS assignment? You (+anyone else you can convince) can just ignore that and it'll work in your bubble anyways!

- No centralized authorities for IP & DNS assignment? You (+anyone else you can convince) can just ignore that and it'll work in your bubble anyways!

My above pedantry aside, the article is explicitly about "The Internet" (it's even using the capital "I" oft forgotten about these days). I.e. the worldwide bubble which has centrally controlled assignment via ICANN/IANA, separate from other systems using the DNS/IP protocols. That's why it talks about ICANN and why bananamogul mentioned .self has not been centrally registered with IANA yet.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#129

Can someone explain how the "core features" would work ? How/Why is this linked to a TLD and not a hosting provider ?

The point is that you are your own hosting provider! We are trying to cater to self-hosters so our goal is to make it as easy as possible for someone with their own homelab to get a domain and have it pointed at the services they want to host.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#130

Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

>One Person, One Subdomain

Indeed. That's the necessary
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