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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP

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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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It simply cannot be both free and free choice of domain. If it has both, it will be squatted to uselessness, and blocked everywhere because of phishing scams everywhere. You can either make the domains cost money, which seems counter to the entire point, or disallow choosing the domain, instead handing out free what3words style names.

We have considered this, all of these things will be examined during the evaluation process of the application with ICANN before any approval to operate the TLD is granted. We could also police our domain and revoke users who use it for abuse but that may be too costly. But you are right that fundamentally we must protect the reputation of the TLD at all costs and that will require imposing certain limits on its use.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#93
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is one person per subdomain enforceable? How is a person uniquely identified and tracked?

My guess is by using ID verification similar to how I do it on https://onlyhumanhub.com/

I'm curious about how this works, but it doesn't look like I can find out without creating an account. I see that it says "Link your existing social accounts to prove you're not a bot." How does having social media accounts prove I'm not a bot?

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

TIL https://newgtldprogram.icann.org/en/application-rounds/round...

Oh god not this shit again. Inb4 they give away .docx

.zip was especially egregious. No one should have allowed that to happen.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Hi there. I've done a bit of work on specifying human-centric identity goals for the internet over the last 10 years. May I suggest you look at Microsoft Vega? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/vega-zero-know... (I have no affiliation). In brief, I think they aim to solve the most important needs for online identity-gated services in a maximally private way. For instance, I'd like to see .self offer the f…

It is good that Microsoft Vega is popularizing zero-knowledge identity-based attestations. It's unfortunate that they're doing so in a relatively inflexible way.

I wish the Vega people had oriented their work around general-purpose zkVMs instead of application-specific ZK circuits. The latter is a fleeting efficiency win; the former is a permanent flexibility advantage. ZK-based privacy advocates shouldn't over-index on proof performance on today's systems when zkVM systems have been making multiple-OOM performance improvements over the past couple of years.

IOW, with Nova, the Vega people are trying to do something very clever (just as the BBS+ people are trying to do something very cleaver) that general-purpose compute wins have made unnecessary.

Something like RISC Zero will let you run arbitrary Rust code under zero knowledge in a few hundred milliseconds with little fuss. Nobody appreciates that identity verification is one special case of a vast set of useful applications enabled by widespread adoption of a ZK compute platform.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is one person per subdomain enforceable? How is a person uniquely identified and tracked?

My guess is by using ID verification similar to how I do it on https://onlyhumanhub.com/

So you have just built a wrapper around https://passportreader.app/, which itself is reading NFC enabled ID/passports from specific countries. The coverage map is here: https://passportreader.app/coverage.

Might be good to know that even in the US this approach would only work for ~50% of people, since a lot of people don't have passports. In most countries this does not work at all, since they don't issue NFC enabled ID/passports.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

#98
post #84

Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP

10% apparently for .tk. I also remember .tv windfall, which is 8-9% of their GDP.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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It simply cannot be both free and free choice of domain. If it has both, it will be squatted to uselessness, and blocked everywhere because of phishing scams everywhere. You can either make the domains cost money, which seems counter to the entire point, or disallow choosing the domain, instead handing out free what3words style names.

You should read their proposal. Specifically, the first "core feature": one person, one domain. If you want to squat on a domain, go for it -- it's yours, and that's the only domain you're getting. I suppose this will be done by ID verification, which is a complete and total non-starter for me, but they do have a vision of some kind.

I've read it, I don't believe it will be effective, even with actual physical ID verification. Scammers can get more IDs, for example by way of scamming.
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