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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by SahAssar »

HumanCCF wrote: post #68
greyface- wrote: post #57

https://hccf.onmy.cloud/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/dot-self.... > Everyone entitled to a subdomain at no cost How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is this a loss leader for other services? Are you operating on a 100% donation model? > No parking, squatting, or reselling How do you plan to tell the difference between a parked/squatted domain and one in…

> How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is this a loss leader for other services? Are you operating on a 100% donation model? We plan on operating the domain as a public good and are actively seeking sponsors to help fund us. Think of it as a similar model to ISRG and LetsEncrypt. > No parking, squatting, or reselling Our rule of one person per subdomai…

> Think of it as a similar model to ISRG and LetsEncrypt.

In that case it was started by an institution (mozilla) with a lot of heft in the area (mozilla's CA program is one of the most broadly used) and was backed by other orgs (google) that had a vested interest in it's success. I'd be interested to hear which potential sponsors you see in a similar situation here?

> rule of one person per subdomain

What is the plan to (without costly overhead or cost to the end user) validate who is an actual person? Even large corporations with loads of resources have problems with this without resorting to treating it as if a person equals a credit card number.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by AFF87 »

goldenarm wrote: post #35

Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by HumanCCF »

vessenes wrote: post #78

Hi there. I've done a bit of work on specifying human-centric identity goals for the internet over the last 10 years. May I suggest you look at Microsoft Vega? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/vega-zero-know... (I have no affiliation). In brief, I think they aim to solve the most important needs for online identity-gated services in a maximally private way. For instance, I'd like to see .self offer the f…

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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by NewJazz »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #30
HumanCCF wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an idea at this point, the next round of gTLD applications is currently open and we are in the process of applying and we are trying to garner support!

TIL https://newgtldprogram.icann.org/en/application-rounds/round...

Oh god not this shit again.

Inb4 they give away .docx

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

hananova wrote: post #76

It simply cannot be both free and free choice of domain. If it has both, it will be squatted to uselessness, and blocked everywhere because of phishing scams everywhere. You can either make the domains cost money, which seems counter to the entire point, or disallow choosing the domain, instead handing out free what3words style names.

You should read their proposal. Specifically, the first "core feature": one person, one domain. If you want to squat on a domain, go for it -- it's yours, and that's the only domain you're getting.

I suppose this will be done by ID verification, which is a complete and total non-starter for me, but they do have a vision of some kind.

Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by [deleted] »

AFF87 wrote: post #84
goldenarm wrote: post #35

Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it. I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP

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Re: .self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting

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Post by NewJazz »

kmoser wrote: post #64
microgpt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only mistake was not putting all US domains under .us, now the US has an an exorbitant privilege to print and enforce rules on new TLDs.

What do you mean by "US domains?" Domains registered by US citizens? Hosted in the US (in which case does that include territories)? Regardless of the definition, I don't see an easy way to do this, nor a reason to, since domains can change hands (and hosts) across countries.

.edu and .gov are us-specific, not sure if that is what they are referring to.
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