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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by Chyzwar »

vinay427 wrote: post #356
Dig1t wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has been touting how their newest model is basically a cyber weapon and is so dangerous that they need to only role it out to trusted people and make sure it has super restrictive guard rails. They are begging to be regulated. This is exactly what they’ve been asking for.

> This is exactly what they’ve been asking for. This doesn't directly follow from the first part of your comment, and more importantly seems inaccurate with respect to Anthropic's public statements on this situation. For example: > As we have stated publicly, we believe the government should have the ability to block unsafe deployments, as part of a statutory process that is transparent, fair, clear, and grounded in…

What they wanted is to regulate competition but they forgot that current admin is Trump. They should have buy gifts to Trump preferably gold and pay for few exciting dinners in Florida. They should have learned from Bezos and Cook.

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Post by digitaltrees »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #365
digitaltrees wrote: post #324

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I am aware that the government has always been involved in these types of issues. Even a season finale of silicon valley shows pied piper being required to navigate government oversight when it became successful and implied it was a badge of honor / success. But you have to admit this policy seems ad hoc and creates the impression of opening a wide door for corruption.

It isn’t ad hoc, it happens all the time in frontier tech, this particular instance just gained public notoriety. Historically, the government has preferred to keep this reality out of the public consciousness. This time they are either unavoidable or they expect some leverage by making it public. This was absolutely predictable, and many people made that prediction. The patterns of what tech they apply export contro…

This isn’t a pure export control restriction. It is granting access to “trusted partners” with no criteria of how a firm or person earns that designation. It is also unclear why these models in particular were subject to a restriction or at least evaluation.

I am simply arguing that there is a more effective approach to creating a regulatory framework here. It doesn’t have to take that much effort. But this random announcement with no prior or current guidelines seems ad hoc to me.

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Post by [deleted] »

IshKebab wrote: post #390
zarzavat wrote: post #314

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Technically the US government is allowing Anthropic to serve the models to any US citizen, and it's Anthropic who decided that's impossible to comply with and so they pulled the model for everyone. I guess a US business with non-citizen employees could work. A lawsuit would be a hard sell though, because Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous. Even if many people on HN might think that Anthropic…

> Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous They said Mythos was dangerous, not Fable which is what got banned.

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Dig1t wrote: post #295
goatlover wrote: post #281

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This administration doesn't care about small companies anymore than it cares about regular Americans.

Anthropic has been touting how their newest model is basically a cyber weapon and is so dangerous that they need to only role it out to trusted people and make sure it has super restrictive guard rails. They are begging to be regulated. This is exactly what they’ve been asking for.

Their true intentions were to get the government to regulate open weight models while leaving them alone. Government went after them instead.

As enjoyable as the sheer irony of the situation is, this is a terrible development... Not only are foreign peasants like me cut off from the best models, so are the chinese AI labs that were distilling them into open weights for the rest of us to enjoy. This sudden acceleration has been genuinely terrifying, I'm not sure what to expect of the future anymore.

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Post by ElProlactin »

well_ackshually wrote: post #383
ElProlactin wrote: post #360

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I always find it strange to encounter people whose disposition to one violent imperial power is to welcome...more violent imperial powers. Strange form of sadomasochism.

No, you're just looking forward to being the only violent imperial power and to rule unopposed. the existence of another violent imperial power keeps you on a leash. It's not the best case scenario, but an unfettered and unrestricted united states spells doom for the world. China also happens to be the one that's electrifying the world, producing and improving batteries, solar panels, has a long term plan while the U…

> No, you're just looking forward to being the only violent imperial power and to rule unopposed.

You'd probably be a much more content person if you stopped going around the internet assuming things about random strangers on the basis of their nationalities.

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

kulahan wrote: post #397
varjag wrote: post #395

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Not sure why people here are so upbeat about China. It is almost guaranteed it will also introduce export controls on the models.

I’ve been asking myself this question quite a bit lately. People seem to suddenly think China is a good alternative to the US hegemony status. I sincerely hope I’m just misreading things.

Probably due to the US government doing a constant stream of insane things that hurt Americans and their allies and China not doing that.

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Post by surgical_fire »

tyre wrote: post #154
Alien1Being wrote: post #120

Don't start to rely on it . The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique. The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.

This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

I find interesting that the tactics to nudge people towards US models and away from Chinese models ceased to be on merit or technical capability - anyone that used DeepSeek or MiMo knows that those are nothing short of excellent. Now it's the old-fashioned fearmongering.

You know what? I live in Europe. China was not the country threatening military action against one EU nation that would throw the whole continent into war a few months ago.

Also, it's not Chinese companies harvesting every piece of data about me that they can get their hands on.

If fear is your argument, I know that I fear the US and its big tech corporations a lot more that China.

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Post by matheusmoreira »

tyre wrote: post #154
Alien1Being wrote: post #120

Don't start to rely on it . The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique. The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.

This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

As if we have a choice. I'm one of the foreign peasants the US government has cut off from the top tier models. I'll probably switch to GLM 5.2 when my current Anthropic subscription ends.
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