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Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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You don’t write the doc. You talk to the LLM about the idea and the anchor points, and have it write the doc.

Just remember Visual Inspection Before Execution…

Nah, it’s only industrial process control… YOLO!

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Documentation driven development is your friend here. 75% of my workflow is generating documentation, at ever lower levels of abstraction, until it’s just code. The code usually comes out optimal, clean, and bug free (after passing tests) and. Suuuuuper well documented lol. It’s human in the loop over and over again tho

> 75% of my workflow is generating documentation, at ever lower levels of abstraction, until it’s just code Some might hate that writing code (which they enjoy) is turning into that, others might doubt the efficacy of doing that and the claims about it working so well. Personally, I’d say that docs help as long as they’re meaningful and not too long (even AI tools have limited context), but you probably also want to…

ProjectLint sounds like an excellent tool for LLMs to use! (A tiny bit is sarcasm here) but seriously, delegation of (flagging) decisions off to deterministic tools is exactly the right call whenever it’s practical to do so. We write a lot of tools for just that, often single use python scripts.

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A friend of mine prepared an arsenal of hooks and the like to address this and LLMs still disobey them at times. I don't have high hopes that there exists a bulletproof solution to this.

A friend of mine prepared an arsenal of hooks and the like to address this and LLMs still disobey them at times. It's a model of language, yes? Trained on a big corpus of text. I have read a lot of stories and accounts in which people were told not to do something and inevitably they did it. Like, lots. Far more than stories and accounts in which people were told not to do something and they then didn't do it. If I'm…

Someone is unlikely to relay a story where someone was asked not to do something and they didn't. There is no story there.

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“Hype Cycle” is a Gartner term of art, which they use to describe the way waves of technological innovation penetrate the business world: https://www.gartner.com/en/research/methodologies/gartner-hy... The idea is there’s a rush of irrational exuberance when an “innovation trigger” makes a new toy looks promising, and everybody rushes to use it for everything, regardless of whether its suitability-for-purpose is prov…

Motte and Bailey. From your video, it looks like your definition of hype involves a situation where eventual adoption increases above what is in the hype today. Here's what the parent comment thinks: > It's just a hype cycle. In my 15 years in data, I've seen around 3-4. Every time leadership get way too invested in the possibilities, and they waste tons of money on doomed efforts. A good example of the prior one was…

I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth ;).

I think the tech is useful, but the hype is ridiculous so I expect lots of companies to have large share price declines et al when this settles.

Big data also had a good core, but all the e-commerce sites building a data lake wasted lots of money.

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For those of us who lived through the "Offshoring" Craze of the mid-2000s, this has the exact same arc. Corp CEOs / CFOs golf buddies coouldn't stop yapping about how much they saved paying people less by offshoring. So step 1, they fire a bunch of people and send work overseas, driving up their financial metrics for 5-6 quarters until their staff and their organization finally break at stage 2. Turns out cultural an…

The solution is clearly to use an AI to communicate across cultural barriers. It can do translation too so your offshore workforce does not even need to speak your language which will cut costs even more. /s

This is being pushed to us in forms of AI SDLC.

I am quite heartbroken. Your /s comment is a reality for others.

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The article does not say that any of the former employees had been fired. You just want to believe in the narrative that companies who lay people off for AI will regret it. Narratives are dumb.

I genuinely don't care about any of this. I'm just reading what's written: > And not all former employees were laid off. To me, this is very clearly saying that SOME were former employees that were laid off, just not ALL were.

That's just you misreading the comment. That quote is not from the article.

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Motte and Bailey. From your video, it looks like your definition of hype involves a situation where eventual adoption increases above what is in the hype today. Here's what the parent comment thinks: > It's just a hype cycle. In my 15 years in data, I've seen around 3-4. Every time leadership get way too invested in the possibilities, and they waste tons of money on doomed efforts. A good example of the prior one was…

I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth ;). I think the tech is useful, but the hype is ridiculous so I expect lots of companies to have large share price declines et al when this settles. Big data also had a good core, but all the e-commerce sites building a data lake wasted lots of money.

The person I replied to put words in your mouth. You and I agree what you meant. You mean that the hype would die down and won’t come back up again. Ever. So reply to the person above who thinks you mean hype this way.

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> Many people think that the one of the primary purposes of a company is to provide employment This is not good for society.

Go argue with most of the developed world I guess.

This holds true for most of the world. The economy is not a jobs program.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth ;). I think the tech is useful, but the hype is ridiculous so I expect lots of companies to have large share price declines et al when this settles. Big data also had a good core, but all the e-commerce sites building a data lake wasted lots of money.

The person I replied to put words in your mouth. You and I agree what you meant. You mean that the hype would die down and won’t come back up again. Ever. So reply to the person above who thinks you mean hype this way.

Whoops. Apologies, bad sleep last night and replied in wrong thread
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