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That won't help you get to the minimum of Win10, though
Yes it will, please re-read carefully. winutil removes hardware checks.
I think he meant resource usage
Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
And in order to get the Windows 10 updates in the article, you need to sign up for an MS account, or pay them $30 a year not to spy on you.
You can bypass the account requirement using https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESU . Of course that isn’t endorsed by Microsoft.
Thank you for that link!
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#193Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
#194Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...
This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…
> You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10.
That's some very confident sounding bullshit.
Latest LTSC is 21H2, which exactly the same build as the (non-LTSC) 22H2. The only difference is the feature enablement package. Which means you aren't lacking any optimizations.
I'm not even sure if it's missing any "features", but even if it does, I'm 101% sure it some BS "feature".
Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not everyone has the luxury of moving off of Windows. Solidworks, for example, has no Linux or Mac port. Though I do agree, if your workflow is supported by any non-NT based OS, that's probably a better option
Anything I need windows for is work related and runs on my locked down (and actually very cleanly stripped down) windows 11 laptop. Its amazing how much Microsoft hates the consumer but bends over backwards for volume license purchasers.
They do still force the volume licensors with their bullshit. However IT admins are used to dealing with Microsoft's bullshit and they can find ways to automate de-enshitification.
TBH many volume licensors do actually want to use Windows as a service and just pay a negotiated fee per license.
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Most people are in fact not gamers. Like.. at all. And even those that are probably don't own an OLED or mini-LED monitor. Most people just want a computer that does the word, the chrome and that's about it.
There are over 900 million PC gamers in the world. PCs have 43% marketshare in the total game console market. Yes, that includes marketshare against the Nintendo Switch. There’s a bit of a bubble of non-gaming in this forum, but gaming is definitely a top use case for PCs. Just walk into your local Best Buy in the laptop section and count up how many of the laptops are marketed as gaming systems. That should give you…
What is this 7-paragraph OLED talk about?
I can plug an OLED display to a fricking Windows XP system with a Maxwell GPU and it'll work perfectly fine as long as it has a goddamn HDMI port. Has nothing to do with OS support.
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Not the Microsoft Store! It doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush or Cortana either. Oh the humanity!
Xbox/Microsoft Store Auth is used for a ton of logins, not just games. Similarly, you can be dismissive of Edge (another thing not included), but the Microsoft Webview Framework is Edge-based ( https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview... ) and will break a variety of useful applications if it's not available. Be derisive as you want, but your advice is awful. The IoT enterprise release is for IoT…
Using Windows Server 2025 (it has an evaluation version), I encountered a few problems (Xbox Controller needing to dig out de Windows 7-era drivers, Meta Quest audio not working, using pnputil to import missing drivers from a normal Win11 install) but otherwise it's been quite smooth sailing.
Not having Store login sounds bad, but it also means the system cannot trick you into linking your account to a Microsoft account, which is a plus (though accidental login is reversible IIRC). (I am not sure if Minecraft, which is the only game I know to require such login, actually worked or not).
Using not-for-purpose OS for gaming does lead to some hiccups, but to me those hiccups are preferable to the constant fight against your OS trying to shove things down your throat or disregarding your choices (of not wanting copilot, of wanting a local account, of not wanting ad-like stuff in the OS).
(Fedora would be easier to setup at that point, but anticheats...)
I also tried the IoT LTSC evaluation which generally worked better (basically, it has all the drivers the Server version is missing, plus QoL features like Win+V are enabled by default) but buying legitimate keys was not possible as a regular consumer.
Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
#198Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...
About $300, and a lot of total install time for this non-upgrade path version.
Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
#199Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...
This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…
> You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10.
Good.
This is exactly why people recommend it.
Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates
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Does that support modern gaming?
No, it's for IoT. Don't install an IoT Operating System if you are planning to do normal Operating System things.
Whilst true, the IoT naming is a bit misleading. It's not just designed for IoT devices/purposes. It can run pretty well as a normal operating system, not much is different. (Think Payment Systems, Library Computers, etc).
I think Microsoft just wanted to be in on the "Internet of Things" hype train. The Windows IoT Core is the cut back version of Windows designed explicitly for headless, IoT stuff.