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Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by AyanamiKaine »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #161
AyanamiKaine wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unironically, I had the most success with old windows programs not when using wine directly but using proton with steam. I personally use umu[1] to use proton without directly needing to run steam. I wrote a small KDE script for .exe files so I can just double click them and they run lol. Or for setups I can right click them and just install them as a setup and it automatically creates a app shortcut I can open. [1]…

Got a link to the script?

Yes! I do here [1]. But keep in mind I am using NixOS and so it looks a bit weird. You should be able to just copy paste the script part and it should work when you have umu at path.

[1] https://pastebin.com/JRaK4uRV

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Grombobulous »

mrguyorama wrote: post #178
Grombobulous wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has per-app HDR profiles, auto-HDR, content-only HDR (e.g. you want to watch an HDR video but don’t want your desktop to be HDR), and, on a related topic, better handling of VRR and windowed full screen. Not that Windows 10 is wildly deficient in these areas, but it has a lot of improvements with display settings and capabilities in general. In my experience with the Windows 11 display settings, it’s an overall bi…

Interesting. Unlike high refresh rates, 1440p resolution, and variable refresh rates that all were so clearly steps above my previous, 60hz basic HD display that I regretted not being an early adopter, HDR has been an immense letdown. I can't even tell if it's on or not, even while my monitor and GPU assure me it is. As far as I can tell, the most obvious feature was shabbier looking colors, because they are de-satur…

I honest don’t even have HDR myself, I was really just picking out an example I know of for “why windows 11 better.”

I’d have upgraded to it just for the screenshot tool to be honest.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by vunderba »

avree wrote: post #179
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Terrible, almost consultant-level advice - particularly on a thread about how the actual Windows 10 release is getting extended support until 2027. The IoT release is missing a ton of installed things, such as Microsoft Store Login (needed for Microsoft apps). If you want security updates, stay on your existing OS instead of using one designed for a totally different purpose, and Microsoft will continue to push out t…

Not the Microsoft Store! It doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush or Cortana either. Oh the humanity!

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by avree »

vunderba wrote: post #183
avree wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terrible, almost consultant-level advice - particularly on a thread about how the actual Windows 10 release is getting extended support until 2027. The IoT release is missing a ton of installed things, such as Microsoft Store Login (needed for Microsoft apps). If you want security updates, stay on your existing OS instead of using one designed for a totally different purpose, and Microsoft will continue to push out t…

Not the Microsoft Store! It doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush or Cortana either. Oh the humanity!

Xbox/Microsoft Store Auth is used for a ton of logins, not just games. Similarly, you can be dismissive of Edge (another thing not included), but the Microsoft Webview Framework is Edge-based (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview...) and will break a variety of useful applications if it's not available.

Be derisive as you want, but your advice is awful. The IoT enterprise release is for IoT use cases. The types of things people do on consumer OSes are not fully supported.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by avree »

osti wrote: post #21
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Does that support modern gaming?

No, it's for IoT. Don't install an IoT Operating System if you are planning to do normal Operating System things.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by ptx »

avree wrote: post #184
vunderba wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the Microsoft Store! It doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush or Cortana either. Oh the humanity!

Xbox/Microsoft Store Auth is used for a ton of logins, not just games. Similarly, you can be dismissive of Edge (another thing not included), but the Microsoft Webview Framework is Edge-based ( https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview... ) and will break a variety of useful applications if it's not available. Be derisive as you want, but your advice is awful. The IoT enterprise release is for IoT…

WebView2 installs its own copy of Edge, as far as I can tell. Multiple copies even.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by xeonmc »

everyone wrote: post #10
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Also MS go to great lengths to make the secret good version of Windows (It honestly is very good, I'd put it up there with Linux Mint) very difficult to buy. So just torrent it. It's bad enough running Windows let alone giving money to MS.

You can just use the official iso with Rufus and MAS, no need to torrent sketchy backdoored versions.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by xeonmc »

noxer wrote: post #111
jamesnorden wrote: post #107

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> so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10 Windows gets worse with each update, so this is actually a plus.

There are no update, windows 10 is EOL since months and even before that it did not receive any real updates in a long time. The current version is stable and gets only security updates just like LTSC. There is no point to switch, at best its a waste of time and worst you could run into issues with software that expects home/pro and not LTSC.

> you could run into issues with software that expects home/pro and not LTSC.

That's a laughably ignorant statement for how windows app development works. Raymond Chen weeps on reading your comment. Enterprise edition is a strict superset in functionality over Home/Pro, and LTSC just adds longer support.

Enterprise IoT just comes with Windows Store components sitting dormantly, which you can promptly activate with `wsreset -i` and it's then identical with consumer editions (other than TikTok and Candy Crush not being forcibly reinstalled after every "feature update") where you can install apps from the Windows Store as needed or just use winget instead.

Enterprise IoT LTSC is just Enterprise IoT with longer support.

There is literally and strictly no downside with using IoT LTSC, especially with the combination of official Rufus + MAS to install from official ISOs.

Actually, with MAS, you can also just download the IoT LTSC iso to perform an in-place upgrade that keeps all your existing Windows Store apps and program installs etc., just follow https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol#upgrade-windows-10-home-...

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Itoldmyselfso »

avree wrote: post #179
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Terrible, almost consultant-level advice - particularly on a thread about how the actual Windows 10 release is getting extended support until 2027. The IoT release is missing a ton of installed things, such as Microsoft Store Login (needed for Microsoft apps). If you want security updates, stay on your existing OS instead of using one designed for a totally different purpose, and Microsoft will continue to push out t…

You can install MS store (not sure about the login though) on ltsc with one command: wsreset -i

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by mancerayder »

Too late! Win10 Pro absolutely demanded and harassed me til I upgraded to the dreaded 11. I put up with it for gaming and did registry hack workarounds to stop the stupid web connectivity and TV-like content it was pushing. It wasn't enough. The system was rebooting with updates all the time, messing with my settings I'd googled, and then someone on HN said:

'Linux on the desktop runs Steam games better than ever. Join us, brother.' I installed Fedora Workstation 43, played my games (albeit with a few quirks), but then as a side effect started all these little Linux and Claude projects after I got home from work, which I hadn't done since my 20s.

Thank you, brother!

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