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Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#183

The overall chart on their page seems politically biased, or at the very least a chart crime. The logos have faint grey lines pointing to their actual data points, conspicuously making Grok look very far right. You wouldn't know it from glancing at the chart, but they measured Chatgpt being further to the left than Grok is to the right.

I don't know what you're seeing here. They only did this with a couple of points that were very close to each other, and didn't change their horizontal position. That, and the rest of the tables, also made it very clear that Chatgpt and Grok were almost mirrored based on the particular wedge issues that were shown. Makes it pretty obvious that aggressive tweaking is happening with both. The Deepseek example somehow m…

I'm seeing that the headline chart of the article is inexplicably deceptive. Why not use coloured data points and a legend? If you're going to have logos with lines pointing to the data points, why make the data points and lines feint grey so that they're barely visible? Why does grok have a comically long line extended out to the right of its data point when every other logo is positioned below its data point? You could say it's an honest mistake, but this whole article reeks of "Elon bad" astroturfing.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#185

The overall chart on their page seems politically biased, or at the very least a chart crime. The logos have faint grey lines pointing to their actual data points, conspicuously making Grok look very far right. You wouldn't know it from glancing at the chart, but they measured Chatgpt being further to the left than Grok is to the right.

I don't know what you're seeing here. They only did this with a couple of points that were very close to each other, and didn't change their horizontal position. That, and the rest of the tables, also made it very clear that Chatgpt and Grok were almost mirrored based on the particular wedge issues that were shown. Makes it pretty obvious that aggressive tweaking is happening with both. The Deepseek example somehow m…

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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#186

The overall chart on their page seems politically biased, or at the very least a chart crime. The logos have faint grey lines pointing to their actual data points, conspicuously making Grok look very far right. You wouldn't know it from glancing at the chart, but they measured Chatgpt being further to the left than Grok is to the right.

I think it's purely chart-crime, because it strongly depends on window/display size and cascading layout quirks. It's chaotic, and at certain sizes Grok is the least affected.

The logos have a constant-size even when the graph is scaled down, but their positions are dynamic as they seek to avoid overlap. This mean they are can be unpredictably shifted around from their statistically-ideal locations.

It gets worse because of the low contrast and z-index layering. From each logo, a line (grey) leads to a dot (grey), which is some cases may be hidden beneath its parent logo or be hard to see on top of another logo. Try hovering over logos with a mouse, and you'll also see green ellipsoid zones.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#187

The political compass always felt like the wrong tool to convey something as nuanced as personal politics, I can have views on all four quadrants but you'd never know that if I end up in any of all four. I do think Grok being where it is sort of makes sense, I've tested "MAGA" views against Grok, it does not agree as much as people blindly assume it does, heck I don't even know of a question I've given it where it di…

I'm not sure what charts you guys are looking at, but this website clearly agrees that Grok is not right wing. Go look at the Worldview tab, filtering by United States. Each model is assigned a "closest party" by country, and for the US all 6 models are closest to the Democratic Party.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what you're seeing here. They only did this with a couple of points that were very close to each other, and didn't change their horizontal position. That, and the rest of the tables, also made it very clear that Chatgpt and Grok were almost mirrored based on the particular wedge issues that were shown. Makes it pretty obvious that aggressive tweaking is happening with both. The Deepseek example somehow m…

I'm seeing that the headline chart of the article is inexplicably deceptive. Why not use coloured data points and a legend? If you're going to have logos with lines pointing to the data points, why make the data points and lines feint grey so that they're barely visible? Why does grok have a comically long line extended out to the right of its data point when every other logo is positioned below its data point? You c…

Here's what I see on desktop: https://i.imgur.com/vuA2Y3w.png

Is this an artifact of dynamic resizing at small resolutions?

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#189
> What they say vs what they do -- We asked each model which way it leans, then compared the answer to where it actually measured.

I think we should conceptualize this as:

1. How does the implicit fictional character in the chat-story describe itself when asked by another character

2. What opinions tend to show up as you play out the stories

It's a mistake to consider the difference itself as nefarious or deliberately dceptive. We humans are the ones over-anthropomorphizing... Although perhaps some blame attaches to the companies that are crafting an experience designed to encourage us to "see" a person.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that is true, why is SpaceX 5-10 years ahead of all its competitors?/why are Elon's companies #1 in all their industries (with the exception of xAI)?

In what industry is Tesla #1 in?

If you consider that they only make two models, and only electric, their relative performance relative to the rest of the automotive market is impressive.
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