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NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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> They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government The DPA only gives that power to the President [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950

Maybe GP was treating Trump to the royal "they"

Which is a fundamental mistake to make with the U.S. government, even if we’re talking only about the executive branch, even if we’re only talking about DoD, even if we’re only talking about the IC.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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You misunderstand - the government issued a directive to Anthropic that effectively forced them to pull access from everyone, even their own employees.

The directive was to remove access to non-Americans, not to pull access from everyone. It’s because Anthropic cannot verify the identity of its users that it pulled access from everyone, not because the government explicitely requested that.

> directive was to remove access to non-Americans

Did Hegseth pull his supply-chain risk BS?

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Yeah... NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company (based on my reading/following of Snowden leaks and others). Anthropic wouldn't be able to exist without implicit NSA approval. This article reads more like a marketing piece for Anthropic/Mythos... and ends by talking about how much NSA wants Anthropic models. Propaganda.

> NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company No, they don't.

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Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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The current position seems to be no-one has access, not even Anthropic employees. What powers does the US government have to force them to provide access? If they have that power why did they not use it to force them to provide their products for military use?

> What powers does the US government have to force them to provide access? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950 This would not be a particularly big stretch here, either.

There is even a precedent for its use with regard to AI (only disclosing information, but still). Biden used it, why does Trump not do so?

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

Yeah... NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company (based on my reading/following of Snowden leaks and others). Anthropic wouldn't be able to exist without implicit NSA approval. This article reads more like a marketing piece for Anthropic/Mythos... and ends by talking about how much NSA wants Anthropic models. Propaganda.

the NSA isn't a bunch of super soldiers, they're cops with too much access, it doesn't take a genius to outsmart a cop

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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AI marketing bullshit stunts are unlike anything I've seen in 30 years. It started with MS Copilot so called capabilities for work, which were completely made up use cases that didn't work at all (3 years later still). We've had OpenAI "AGI is coming" and "AI will take your job", now we have Mythos being so "dangerous" for cybersecurity, which of course makes the average Joe interpret it as Anthropic being "the better overall company, the NSA uses it!!". I mean gov foes with Anthropic are probably true, but the marketing is to blame not Mythos capabilities. This is all so fucking pathetic

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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> NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company No, they don't.

It's back to the question of how much you should give the benefit of doubt to powerful people who openly lie.

It's just not technically feasible, so there's nothing to lie about. They're not MITMing petabytes/sec across dozens (hundreds?) of companies and they haven't broken TLS1.3.

If I have a box at Digital Ocean and I'm communicating with it with TLS1.3 using a Let's Encrypt cert that I generated, where, exactly, does this magical MITM box come into play?

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