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NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#11

Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

> They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government The DPA only gives that power to the President [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950

Maybe GP was treating Trump to the royal "they"

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#12
post #7

Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

Yeah... NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company (based on my reading/following of Snowden leaks and others). Anthropic wouldn't be able to exist without implicit NSA approval. This article reads more like a marketing piece for Anthropic/Mythos... and ends by talking about how much NSA wants Anthropic models. Propaganda.

> NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company

No, they don't.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah... NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company (based on my reading/following of Snowden leaks and others). Anthropic wouldn't be able to exist without implicit NSA approval. This article reads more like a marketing piece for Anthropic/Mythos... and ends by talking about how much NSA wants Anthropic models. Propaganda.

> NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company No, they don't.

It's back to the question of how much you should give the benefit of doubt to powerful people who openly lie.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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post #10

Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

Probably not. The US constitution limits what government can force on the people. If the NSA tries to force something that will spend years in court (if anyone wants to fight)

The constitution limits a lot of things that this administration has done regardless.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#15
post #9

Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

The current position seems to be no-one has access, not even Anthropic employees. What powers does the US government have to force them to provide access? If they have that power why did they not use it to force them to provide their products for military use?

> What powers does the US government have to force them to provide access?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950

This would not be a particularly big stretch here, either.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#17
Kind of crazy actually. Other models are catching up fast, they all can find the vulnerabilities in our (and by our I mean everyone's) underlying infra very fast. It takes a very long time to fix, review, and finally deploy these fixes. There really isn't much time left.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You misunderstand - the government issued a directive to Anthropic that effectively forced them to pull access from everyone, even their own employees.

The directive was to remove access to non-Americans, not to pull access from everyone. It’s because Anthropic cannot verify the identity of its users that it pulled access from everyone, not because the government explicitely requested that.

If their operation team is not US based that's going to be difficult to operate. They would have to reorganize the whole company as I'm pretty sure that they are not employing only US citizen.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

#20
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah... NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company (based on my reading/following of Snowden leaks and others). Anthropic wouldn't be able to exist without implicit NSA approval. This article reads more like a marketing piece for Anthropic/Mythos... and ends by talking about how much NSA wants Anthropic models. Propaganda.

> NSA literally has MITM proxies/interception of any traffic they want inside every major US tech company No, they don't.

https://blog.encrypt.me/2013/11/05/ssl-added-and-removed-her...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Yeah, they did (and probably do).

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