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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by ForHackernews »

RobotToaster wrote: post #179
copper-float wrote: post #60

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Yeah, honestly. I love open source as much as the next guy, but I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. The license feels pretty reasonable. The source code is fully available, none of the features are paywalled. They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. If you take a look at the Play Store, there are thousands of instances where open source projects are lazily renamed and so…

> They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. They prohibit you from removing the constant nags about buying a licence.

I know a way you could remove those nags.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by ggeorgovassilis »

snthpy wrote: post #105
nulld3v wrote: post #78

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FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/ https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

I switched to ClearFlow a month or two ago after learning of it on Hackernews. It is available in GBoard. I'm happy with the switch. Like any keyboard switch (I've gone from Qwerty to Dvorak and now a Colemak-dh derivative with about ten years on each) it takes some time to learn the layout. Overall I'm happy with it though and there are less frustrating misinterpretations and corrections needed. This post was swiped…

If you don't mind, how do I get ClearFlow in gboard? GBoard on Android only has language selections, not keyboard selections.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by soco »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #189
fnordian_slip wrote: post #174

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Me neither. I added clearflow on gboard for English (US), but it didn't give me the same option for German.

Only defined for the default, english charset: https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/blob/main/...

And anyway, there's no keyboard on earth who can handle multi-language typing in a sane way. They either mash all languages together, or force random layouts on you, or... I stuck with GBoard because I just hate it less than others, so when I found this topic I thought yay let's try - until I read it's only for English. So there.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#194

Post by soco »

deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #83
crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

> Because I love swiping, but all my problems with it come from the fact that the QWERTY layout is far from ideal for it. I am 100% willing to learn a new layout if anyone will develop an optimal one for English so that swiping has a 99.9% accuracy rate instead of what currently feels more like 90% or 95%. 90-95% is a very good estimate! That's about what we measure on our test set. I have good news for you, and we w…

How about context. We have these not-so-new gadgets made by design to predict the next word, I mean those LLMs... a local tiny model should be able to beat those dumb GBoard predictions any time (and a note for Google: if GBoard uses already such a local predictor, just throw it away, it's garbage)

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by nisiddharth »

ggeorgovassilis wrote: post #192
snthpy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to ClearFlow a month or two ago after learning of it on Hackernews. It is available in GBoard. I'm happy with the switch. Like any keyboard switch (I've gone from Qwerty to Dvorak and now a Colemak-dh derivative with about ten years on each) it takes some time to learn the layout. Overall I'm happy with it though and there are less frustrating misinterpretations and corrections needed. This post was swiped…

If you don't mind, how do I get ClearFlow in gboard? GBoard on Android only has language selections, not keyboard selections.

Tap on the language, a scrollable list of layouts comes on top.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by johanyc »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #157
defenestrated wrote: post #132

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Trilingual here. Gboard on my pixel 10 pro does support swipe type while code switching between multiple languages. Works reasonably well. Accuracy is a bit lower for words that are collisions across languages

What is "code switching"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by helenite »

ggeorgovassilis wrote: post #192
snthpy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to ClearFlow a month or two ago after learning of it on Hackernews. It is available in GBoard. I'm happy with the switch. Like any keyboard switch (I've gone from Qwerty to Dvorak and now a Colemak-dh derivative with about ten years on each) it takes some time to learn the layout. Overall I'm happy with it though and there are less frustrating misinterpretations and corrections needed. This post was swiped…

If you don't mind, how do I get ClearFlow in gboard? GBoard on Android only has language selections, not keyboard selections.

There's a section [1] on the page that has instructions, and video [2] too. I had to select the English (US) language to get the option to select ClearFlow.

[1]: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/#section_activate [2]: https://youtu.be/rSfbvE9cEKE?si=NbJC93sTiOHqw4lX

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by johanyc »

gblargg wrote: post #54

Voice dictation is so much better than GBoard, which I've been using until now. It capitalizes and punctuates sentences without me needing to, and got several sentences perfect without any post-editing needed, and it's all a local model. The one downside is no real-time update, just batch conversion once you're done talking. Looks like they've fixed the swipe backspace and spacebar to not be over-sensitive like it wa…

gboard has voice dictation and it has real-time update

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by saintfire »

RobotToaster wrote: post #179
copper-float wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, honestly. I love open source as much as the next guy, but I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. The license feels pretty reasonable. The source code is fully available, none of the features are paywalled. They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. If you take a look at the Play Store, there are thousands of instances where open source projects are lazily renamed and so…

> They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. They prohibit you from removing the constant nags about buying a licence.

The nags that you could just click "I bought a license" to remove without actually buying one?

Or you know, also buy the license and click it honestly.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by a022311 »

crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

Back when I was using QWERTY with Microsoft SwiftKey, I used to swipe a bit, but it never really felt comfortable for me. I've tried swiping again after switching to Colemak on my phone and everything is so close together that the accuracy is very low. I wonder if this model will help improve accuracy on other layouts too (or even languages!).

I hope FUTO does start caring about language support, because for example their AI powered text prediction is only available for English. I'd happily train a model for them in my native language if they provided instructions on how to do so. And I'd help with swipe typing too.

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