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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

Correction seems so mutton handed - I don't understand why, when I position the cursor for a correction it doesn't stem/postfix the word to offer options.

In fact (with Gboard) the suggestions don't change with cursor position. Surely, when I place the cursor you the right of a letter I'm planning on removing that letter, or adding a letter, but the suggestions don't change according to cursor placement.

There's also no apparent frecency - I had to correct cursor every time.

I swiped "frecency" as "decency" - corrections offered were "d doubt difference". The swipes for those are wildly different. d->e is NNW (350°), d->i, d->o is ENE (~70°).

It's really so basic. Surely they can do better than this.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by deruta »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #157
defenestrated wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trilingual here. Gboard on my pixel 10 pro does support swipe type while code switching between multiple languages. Works reasonably well. Accuracy is a bit lower for words that are collisions across languages

What is "code switching"?

When you're multilingual, you'd switch between languages on the fly, mid-sentence even, just because the words in other language come to your mind quicker, seem to better match nuances, etc.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by catelm »

backscratches wrote: post #165
popcar2 wrote: post #37

Awesome. I've been using FUTO keyboard for two years now and it's the best free & private keyboard I found, but swiping has been really bad for all these keyboards which was such a pain because I use swiping a lot. Nice to see the hour of swiping I did adding to their dataset actually helped. I'm using it now and it feels as good as the Google keyboard. Edit: It is sending me a little that it keeps swiping "whats" in…

Heliboard has had great swipe for a while and has two finger swipe which is killer feature

Mind blown. And brain broken as I try to swipe with two fingers

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by fnordian_slip »

esquivalience wrote: post #168
4gotunameagain wrote: post #145

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I actually can't find the answer on either of the linked pages, so it would be good to know. And I think people's experience is more important than the claims in these discussions.

Me neither. I added clearflow on gboard for English (US), but it didn't give me the same option for German.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by backscratches »

Vingdoloras wrote: post #38

After experiencing Nintype on iOS many years ago, I can't use any other swipe keyboard anymore. I'm stuck using the stock keyboard for typing, and sometimes (rarely) swiping a word or two when I din't have two hands available. Swiping (with one finger) when holding my phone with both hands just feels unnatural and sluggish. I wish Apple had just bought/sherlocked Nintype and integrated it into the stock keyboard.

Heliboard (f-droid) supports two thumb swipe! Not as good as nintype but works very well

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by backscratches »

PlotCitizen wrote: post #45
Vingdoloras wrote: post #38

After experiencing Nintype on iOS many years ago, I can't use any other swipe keyboard anymore. I'm stuck using the stock keyboard for typing, and sometimes (rarely) swiping a word or two when I din't have two hands available. Swiping (with one finger) when holding my phone with both hands just feels unnatural and sluggish. I wish Apple had just bought/sherlocked Nintype and integrated it into the stock keyboard.

Omg I was using that too! I was actually wondering whether FUTO had any features that supported typing one word with multiple concurrent (or not) swipes. I guess it does not but dang what a blast from the past. I had forgotten the app name too! Was using it since before Apple started actually allowing third party keyboards officially

Heliboard on f-droid does two thumb swiping!

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by backscratches »

mightyham wrote: post #56
Vingdoloras wrote: post #38

After experiencing Nintype on iOS many years ago, I can't use any other swipe keyboard anymore. I'm stuck using the stock keyboard for typing, and sometimes (rarely) swiping a word or two when I din't have two hands available. Swiping (with one finger) when holding my phone with both hands just feels unnatural and sluggish. I wish Apple had just bought/sherlocked Nintype and integrated it into the stock keyboard.

Completely agree! The author made a buggy android port of nintype (called keyboard 69) that I used for years. The UX was incredible, and every swipe system I've tried since feels downright clumsy by comparison. Two finger swipe is peak ergonomics, but unfortunately I think it's an innovation that's simply too niche.

I used nintype and keyboard69 for years, heliboard on f-droid supports two thumb swiping and works very well ! Not as good as nintype but extremely useful

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by SXX »

aendruk wrote: post #117
SXX wrote: post #50

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FUTO also funds some actually open source projects like Immich so not everything about them is bad.

Related reading: https://drewdevault.com/blog/Whats-up-with-FUTO/

Sorry, but really when it come to open source: money dont smell. If they do give money to real projects with OSI-approved licenses it doesnt matter to me what else they do, who their sponsors are, etc. Well unless they actually do something illegal.

This is because 99.9% open source projects not targeted enterprise never ever see more than $100 of donations and being maintainer of such software is literally thankless job that will never pay you anything.

Blaming organizations for giving money or maintainers for taking money is worse you can do no matter who sponsor is: FSF, FUTO, Cloudflare, Microsoft, Facebook, Oracle, DARPA or MAGA INC.

Dont like FUTO or its owner? Make a better fund, give your money to SFC, FSF or whatever open source sponsor organization is acceptible to you.

There is so little money in end-user open source software and making pie even smaller or antoganizing thankless people maintaining it is awful. Everyone doing this is either dumb, malicious or both.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by RobotToaster »

copper-float wrote: post #60
nine_k wrote: post #29

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> shit It's just a commercial license with very mild terms.

Yeah, honestly. I love open source as much as the next guy, but I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. The license feels pretty reasonable. The source code is fully available, none of the features are paywalled. They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. If you take a look at the Play Store, there are thousands of instances where open source projects are lazily renamed and so…

> They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it.

They prohibit you from removing the constant nags about buying a licence.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by backscratches »

jeena wrote: post #65

I always liked their voice dictation because it's better than Samsungs or Googles while it's on device. It's super fast and puts in punctuation in, etc. The keyboard on the other hand I never really liked for some reason which I can't even explain clearly. So for the keyboard I've been using https://github.com/HeliBorg/HeliBoard for ever, but it does not have sviping. I might try FUTO Swipe just to test it.

Not only does heliboard have swiping, it has two finger swipe, which is more than 2x better than one finger swipe!
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