Live data from Hacker News

FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

swipe.futo.tech

51–60 of 261 posts

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#51
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Following "Jordan" with "Peterson" doesn't seem random in the slightest

It never had my own surname as a suggestion, and there's many people, places and things called 'Jordan' in some way

So you want it to randomly pick the next word, rather than suggest the most common word?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#52
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never had my own surname as a suggestion, and there's many people, places and things called 'Jordan' in some way

So you want it to randomly pick the next word, rather than suggest the most common word?

The most common word I entered after my forename is my surname. All other keyboards handled this fine, but FUTO didn't. That's what's odd

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#53
post #36

I've been using this keyboard on and off for a while now. I've always switched back to gboard, however this update made me convert full time. It's really good. There are a few issues, like it randomly capitalizes words in the middle of sentences. Also, it doesn't seem to take context into account when suggesting words, so words that clearly wouldn't follow the last word will often show up. It's not as good as gboard…

We sound similar. I have found that the voice to text can often just randomly start spitting out emojis. Did you find that?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#54
Voice dictation is so much better than GBoard, which I've been using until now. It capitalizes and punctuates sentences without me needing to, and got several sentences perfect without any post-editing needed, and it's all a local model. The one downside is no real-time update, just batch conversion once you're done talking. Looks like they've fixed the swipe backspace and spacebar to not be over-sensitive like it was a year or two ago when I last tried (and allowed some customization).

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#55
post #8

This is amazing! It's driven me nuts for a very long time that so many mobile keyboards allow totally non-sequitur nonsensical sequence completions. In particular, if you end up using the voice input mode of it and have trouble with accuracy, I would giving a try to the biggest model that it supports. It's slower (although really not bad at all on my Galaxy Fold), but it's so nice to have it actually be as accurate a…

Do they still have that issue where it will randomly spit out a string of emojis when using voice to text?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#56

After experiencing Nintype on iOS many years ago, I can't use any other swipe keyboard anymore. I'm stuck using the stock keyboard for typing, and sometimes (rarely) swiping a word or two when I din't have two hands available. Swiping (with one finger) when holding my phone with both hands just feels unnatural and sluggish. I wish Apple had just bought/sherlocked Nintype and integrated it into the stock keyboard.

Completely agree! The author made a buggy android port of nintype (called keyboard 69) that I used for years. The UX was incredible, and every swipe system I've tried since feels downright clumsy by comparison. Two finger swipe is peak ergonomics, but unfortunately I think it's an innovation that's simply too niche.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#57
post #43

I don't really get swiping. It's always going to be quicker and more efficient to type because you can use both hands, right? And you don't have to swipe your finger across the screen? Still going strong with Fleksy even though you can't even download it anymore.

Maybe for you personally, but in a general sense I don't see how you can hold a phone and "use both hands" to type individual keys.

One notable advantage of swiping is that you can be quite loose with each single swipe gesture whereas you have to hit the right key many times for each word. That swipe is also usually much quicker than finding multiple keys for most people.

You preferences may reflect youth, eyesight, finger size, co-ordination, phone case usage or other advantages most people don't have.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#58
post #43

I don't really get swiping. It's always going to be quicker and more efficient to type because you can use both hands, right? And you don't have to swipe your finger across the screen? Still going strong with Fleksy even though you can't even download it anymore.

If you have long nails then two thumbs on a tiny phone keyboard are pretty much impossible.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#60
post #29
post #7

For anyone wondering: the library uses the GPLv3 (good) while the Android keyboard uses the Futo License (shit). - https://gitlab.futo.org/keyboard/swipe-library/-/blob/master... - https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/blob/master/LIC...

> shit It's just a commercial license with very mild terms.

Yeah, honestly. I love open source as much as the next guy, but I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. The license feels pretty reasonable.

The source code is fully available, none of the features are paywalled. They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it.

If you take a look at the Play Store, there are thousands of instances where open source projects are lazily renamed and sold for $5 or $10. It's the definition of scummy, pathetic, worthless behavior, and I'm glad the license prevents those kinds of leeches from succeeding.

I know this isn't the only case, but it's the majority of cases. So I have no problem with their license at all.

Post reply on HN