111–120 of 282 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you believe that police should have their activities monitored at work? How about child care workers? Nuclear power plant operators? Bank tellers? And if those are ok, what makes them different?
that is the most outlandish comparison ive ever seen
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you believe that police should have their activities monitored at work? How about child care workers? Nuclear power plant operators? Bank tellers? And if those are ok, what makes them different?
that is the most outlandish comparison ive ever seen
I'll be the contrarian here. I think the program was legal and morally fine. Take into account that these are corporate computers, and the tracking is of work that the company is paying for, so the telemetry, which is highly valuable for analysis and automation, is rightfully theirs. I also don't think that the purpose of the move was to manage workers and see if they slack off, it was to gather training data, but ev…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Crying in Germany with 60-85k average SW engineer salary.
Yeah, but you don’t have to have to pay SF mortgage prices, have a working public healthcare, no hordes of homeless on your doorstep etc. etc. One might argue that we get more for our sille euro wages. Also if we decide to leave the company, we are not completely f_ckd, since our families don ’t suddenly drop out of healthcare and other services.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
that is the most outlandish comparison ive ever seen
I often feel people make hand wavy comparisons as if everything in the world were equal, hoping the other party can’t clearly articulate why they are clearly not equivalent
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed → https://www.levels.fyi/companies/facebook/salaries • Engineer (E3, entry level) $248.2K avg ∴ https://www.levels.fyi/companies/facebook/salaries/software-... • Engineer (E5, senior level) $629.8K avg ∴ https://www.levels.fyi/companies/facebook/salaries/software-... • Engineer (E7, principal) $1.69M avg ∴ https://www.levels.fyi/companies/facebook/salaries/software-... • Engineer (E9, distinguished) $6.09M avg…
Crying in Germany with 60-85k average SW engineer salary.
Not sure I'd recommend it; there are less cartoonishly evil companies who still pay silly money in Europe available.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. Nope nope nope NOPE. No part of this is remotely reasonable. Stop normalising mass surveillance. It is not okay. Not even your own employees, to this degree. Employees are humans too (maybe not the ones at Meta, but I'm speaking in general). Just because somebody is receiving a paycheck for something does not make them fair game for anything and everything to be done to them. > there's a foreman watching the em…
Do you believe that police should have their activities monitored at work? How about child care workers? Nuclear power plant operators? Bank tellers? And if those are ok, what makes them different?
It should be an unpleasant necessity, highly regulated. Not just something that you do on a blanket basis because you suffer under the delusion that you might create the next magic robot (I assume the driving force here is that Facebook is very, very behind in LLM-land.)
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but you don’t have to have to pay SF mortgage prices, have a working public healthcare, no hordes of homeless on your doorstep etc. etc. One might argue that we get more for our sille euro wages. Also if we decide to leave the company, we are not completely f_ckd, since our families don ’t suddenly drop out of healthcare and other services.
What you ignore is the thing that with meta’s salary you can retire in 10 years back to Europe. With silly wages in Germany you can retire on your 75th birthday. Feel the difference? Germany’s economy is stagnating, there will be no higher salaries anymore. Just higher taxes. If I were younger I would pick SF and hordes of homeless over declining Germany. If you follow political discussions it will not get better: pl…
SF and Meta make sense if you are going to try to be the cutting edge of conversations and tech.
If you just want to live your life?
I'll be the contrarian here. I think the program was legal and morally fine. Take into account that these are corporate computers, and the tracking is of work that the company is paying for, so the telemetry, which is highly valuable for analysis and automation, is rightfully theirs. I also don't think that the purpose of the move was to manage workers and see if they slack off, it was to gather training data, but ev…
[flagged]
Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. It's a special arrangement between Google and WhatsApp which makes a file only visible to WhatsApp, and not appear in your regular drive so you can't do normal cloud file operations like generating public links.
Without evidence of this “special arrangement” I don’t see why anyone should believe you. You made a claim that is directly contrary to WhatsApp’s published materials and they have a lot to lose if you are correct. On the other hand, if your accusation is false, it’s tantamount to libel.
You know how I found this link? Googling WhatsApp encryption backdoor. You could have too.