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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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If your state finds that it needs to murder children in its defense then it is a failed state and should be refactored by its citizenry, immediately. Because that which war criminals bring to their victims, they will also - ALWAYS - bring back to their own state. Prosecute your war criminals. Now!

Perfect speech, I wish hamas and their 70% supporters in gaza could really hear it

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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See also this This American Life episode, where doctors visiting Gaza saw a disturbing number of children with direct gunshot wounds to the head and chest: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/859/transcript

Had seen a testimony of an European doctor coming from Gaza saying that each week or month the hospitals where flooded with young males coming from the humanitarian food queues with a different gunshoot type. There was the month of the knees, the month of head gunshoots, and the month of the young men flooding the hospitals with their testicles blown off, all because they wanted to pick some food for their families.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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> Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. Not sure it's the same thing. Russians want political and territorial control in Ukraine, not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians". Israel wants to conquer the whole of Palestine (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem) to replace the native population with its own. There is no possible equal integration of Palestinians or their descendants into a Jewi…

> not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians" The similarity might be stronger than you suspect. Russia abducts and transports Ukrainian children to controlled territories [0], and actively encourages its own citizens to relocate to captured Ukrainian areas through economic incentives, subsidized housing, and aggressive long-term repopulation strategies. [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articl…

Kidnapping and moving children to new parents also counts as genocide under the convention on genocide.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Maybe to spark curious conversation, when a world power seems to be supportive of actions that an international body considers negative, what structure can help resolve these? It does seem like UN is unable to really make a dent here.

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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> Firing from schools, hospitals and resendential buildings. I really don't want to descend into countless counterexamples, but that's how virtually every military or militia wages war, including the IDF. I assume your confusion on this issue may be due to a lack of familiarity with the subject. Usually never ever has anything to do with malevolence (eg. in an attempt to use the counter strike as a propaganda story).…

Are you saying that every militia and army use hospitals as a base from which to wage war? (e.g. firing rockets, artillery shells, etc)

The whole world saw US soldiers in the Gulf states hiding in hotels when US bases were struck.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Those Palestinians with Israeli citizenship are no longer allowed into Israel. That's my understanding after watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmE-WiC4eA

You’ve either misunderstood or the youtuber is lying to you.

Third option: it's true.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Not sure if it used to be the case with South Africa too, but I'm baffled how much ideological support Israel still has, in various population groups. There are at least two religious groups who seem to view it as integral part of a divine plan that trumps all other considerations. ("mainstream" Orthodox Jews and Evangelical Christians) Then there various secular narratives around the Jewish homeland, the rebirth (an…

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Yes, and that seems to be the rationale of western politicians as well, essentially, "we have to protect Israel to protect the Jewish people, without it, the Holocaust would risk repeating"

That makes sense as a "subjective experience" (if there is something like the subjective experience of a people), but it fails the reality check for me.

Yes, Israel is the center of Jewish life today (New York coming next apparently), but I can't really believe that it genuinely is the safest place for Jews in the world today - not after the last years. Jews in the US or Europe were not at risk of being murdered by Hamas, hit by a missile from Iran or get conscripted in a war. Jews in Israel were.

> Most want peace but believe their Arab enemies do not.

Well, everyone wants peace in the "I won" sense. I don't see that most Israeli Jews want peace in the sense of living together peacefully with their neighbors.

(Neither do their neighbors, true - which is why I fault Israelis less here than the western allies who should apply force to both sides to deescalate and reconcile if they really wanted to end the conflict, but who instead only apply pressure to one side and unquestionably support the other side)

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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The UN is stuck in 1945. The UNSC needs to throw out the UK, France, and bring in Brazil, India, South Africa and Germany. And this veto nonsense needs to go away.

The security council was built around the nuclear powers at the time. I guess there are two ways to look at it: 1: The new nuclear powers should be included, I guess including N Korea, India, and Pakistan. And possibly Israel, if they admit to having them. 2: Rethink the whole thing. Are nukes really as important as everybody thought they were after WWII? If not, what should we look at to decide who to include?

> The security council was built around the nuclear powers at the time.

That's not actually true, the 5 permanent seats on the UNSC were granted in 1945, well before any country aside from the US managed to develop nuclear weapons.

Those 5 countries did all eventually develop nuclear weapons and became nuclear weapon states under the NPT but that happened quite a bit later.

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