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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows…

Many many countries got sanctioned into oblivion or color-revolutionized into US-loyalty for far far less (often just for not being aligned with the US).

It is even more sickening and outrageous if you view it through that lens.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#74

If you try very hard, you can understand the reason for bombardment, at least from the BEGINNING. Surely, not the reason for killing these poor children. But I never came to better conclusion about West Bank annexation that that it is pure imperialism. Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. I'm still not quite sure what is the purpose, there is really not enough land or it's all just bs? I wonder if this ends…

> Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. Not sure it's the same thing. Russians want political and territorial control in Ukraine, not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians". Israel wants to conquer the whole of Palestine (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem) to replace the native population with its own. There is no possible equal integration of Palestinians or their descendants into a Jewi…

> not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians"

The similarity might be stronger than you suspect. Russia abducts and transports Ukrainian children to controlled territories [0], and actively encourages its own citizens to relocate to captured Ukrainian areas through economic incentives, subsidized housing, and aggressive long-term repopulation strategies.

[0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7g5xnvl2eo

[1] https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russias...

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#75

If you try very hard, you can understand the reason for bombardment, at least from the BEGINNING. Surely, not the reason for killing these poor children. But I never came to better conclusion about West Bank annexation that that it is pure imperialism. Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. I'm still not quite sure what is the purpose, there is really not enough land or it's all just bs? I wonder if this ends…

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#77
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well russians over the history resettled the native population numerous times, even resettle russians there. But the truth is they mostly want control for whatever reason they made up. Part of their propaganda is thet Ukrainians are basically confused russians so you got the point here. But I wouldn't be sure about your claim regarding Israel. Even now there are millions of Palestinians with Israel citizenship. I und…

Those Palestinians with Israeli citizenship are no longer allowed into Israel. That's my understanding after watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmE-WiC4eA

You’ve either misunderstood or the youtuber is lying to you.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#78

Maybe to spark curious conversation, when a world power seems to be supportive of actions that an international body considers negative, what structure can help resolve these? It does seem like UN is unable to really make a dent here.

The UN is really just meant to prevent World War 3 and nuclear war. It has succeeded in this for the last 70 years. The structure of the UN is basically unanimous consensus between the major world powers with each power getting a veto.

There is no unanimous consensus on this issue at all.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#79

This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows…

Israel has had a hand up each US politician’s ass since the 1980s. Israel owns all of them.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#80
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firing from schools, hospitals and resendential buildings. I really don't want to descend into countless counterexamples, but that's how virtually every military or militia wages war, including the IDF. I assume your confusion on this issue may be due to a lack of familiarity with the subject. Usually never ever has anything to do with malevolence (eg. in an attempt to use the counter strike as a propaganda story).…

Are you saying that every militia and army use hospitals as a base from which to wage war? (e.g. firing rockets, artillery shells, etc)

Units will use any reinforced or cover position to carry their objective.

Even roofs of civilians apartments, let alone reinforced structures such as hospitals, town halls, schools, etc if they can't use alternatives.

Even antique frontal wars used terrain to their advantage. That's why we wrote rules of engagement, but if the bigger powers themselves abuse them, how can you expect militias that have to carry guerrilla or urban tactics to stand by them?

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