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HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Just a note: the article focuses on the ladies, but men should absolutely get it as well because it cuts risk for other types of cancers. I was looking for a better link, however this is the only one I found (I had an older one saved, however I can't find it): https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/health/hpv-men-vaccine-cancer...

I will do so when my doctor advises me to, not before.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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From what risk level without them? How many people actually die of cervical cancer before age 30?? I mean, vaccinations and cancer prevention are both great, but this headline is ridiculous.

The estimated number of deaths from cervical cancer in the US in 2026 is 4,200. The death rate is 2.2 per 100,000 people down from 3.1 per 100,000 in 1992. If we multiply 3.1e-5 by 50 years that's about a 0.15% chance of dying of this cancer. The HPV shots cost $500-1000 for the three shots, so the cost per life saved is about $650K. With the statistical value of a human life being about $12M this is quite cost effec…

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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I have seen a "highly trained specialist" declare that a baby can easily accommodate thousands of vaccines a day (advocating for the then existing vaccine schedule), because the immune system encounter that many pathogens per day! I hope I don't have to explain the fallacy in that to the crowd here.

There exists a possibility that they were correct and you are not.

But the larger possibility is that it is the other way around...

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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I remember this vaccine being part of political discourse, so I everyone should be extremely skeptical of any news about it.

The only ones making the HPV vaccine "political" are the morons who think it shouldn't be administered because it increases promiscuity, or the ones who mistakenly think vaccines cause more harm than they help.

No the 60+ men who drug search for it against medical advice are virtue signaling.

I really wish the left would respond to the rights idiocy with by actually following science. Science like: “not recommended for men over … whatever it is now.”

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Thanks for the data. 4,462 out of the whole population (of women etc.). Would you subjectively describe that number as "almost zero"?

> Would you subjectively describe that number as "almost zero"? Sure. If the only effect were on under-30s, this wouldn’t be a great vaccine. What 5,000 people is good for, however, is confidently measuring decline in a cohort. Zero deaths, even against a baseline of tens, strongly implies this should cross into the tend or hundreds of thousands over the next decades in populations that keep vaccination rates up.

Looking at healthcare stuff globally is misleading because of Africa. The ongoing HIV/AIDS epidemic there makes death rates for anything that HIV/AIDS can contribute to highly malinformative. For instance in southern Africa, more than 60% of women with cervical cancer also have HIV. [1]

Oddly enough I can't find exact death rates from cervical cancer paired amongst those who had HIV/AIDS but this [2] hints at it, with 90% of all cervical cancer deaths coming in low/middle income countries, and with the "highest burden" (plurality I guess?) coming from sub-Saharan Africa where rates of HIV are the highest. [2]

[1] - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7815633/

[2] - hhttps://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestori...

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Completely agree. If kids are getting HPV before their teens, the solution is not vaccination ...

As a parent, you cannot control when your child becomes sexually active and potentially exposed to HPV (at which point vaccination is less effective based on HPV strain). Therefore, it behooves you to protect them with a vaccine before potential exposure, as the vaccine risk is very low, based on all available data. I cannot imagine what it would feel like to face your child who experiences cancer that could’ve been…

What age do you recommend they be vaccinated?

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Glad to see it, except it is still a sensationalist headline IMO because HPV deaths, and specifically below 30 years old, is already extremely low.

My issue with it is a missing "in mice"-style qualifier, but this time it is of the geographical nature. The study is focusing on England: https://www.qmul.ac.uk/news/latest-news/2026/medicine-and-de...

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Men raping children is why they wanted to start at 9.

Source? I thought it was because the vaccine is most effective for people before sexual activity begins.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6114142/

Recommended for victims of sexual assault. Rather revoltingly one conservative objection to giving it to 9 years olds was that it would “increase risky behaviour” in that cohort, despite knowing that the biggest risk of sexually transmitted disease to children that age is rape by family member.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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My oldest daughter almost died from the first Gardasil, so you may not die from cervical cancer, but die from something else. I am not against vaccines; my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months, and so am I, but the HPV vaccine was not mandatory, so, given the experience and the similar genetics, we didn't do it for the other two kids. Yeah, ther…

I find it extremely troubling that this comment detailing your very personal experience was flagged because it went against a prescribed narrative.

Except that HPV vaccines are not mandatory in most states [0].

[0]: https://www.immunize.org/official-guidance/state-policies/va...

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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A shot of tequila? Or my team having a shot at winning world series? There are lots of shots.

Don't brits use the same way, i.e. "Take a jab at it"? - not a brit so idk

Not sure about that, you may be thinking of "take a stab at it".
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