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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by qingcharles »

handoflixue wrote: post #126
qingcharles wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is the only platform that actually tells you that you are shadowbanned, so at least they are upfront about it, but their appeal system sucks. My friend just appealed every day for just over 600 days and finally got their account un-shadowbanned.

"It only took two years for my friend to appeal a Ban" If you're willing to wait a couple years, I dare say a few services might have changed their minds by then, so it's too early to judge.

Most of them don't even have a reasonable appeals process at all :(

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by nottorp »

maxloh wrote: post #23
JimDabell wrote: post #6

OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

That is a really terrible design. I dealt with a few instances of online ID verification recently, and in my experience, they don't close your application when your photo is not clear. They mark it as "awaiting customer response" and kindly ask you to upload again.

Claude couldn't vibe code that loop.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by eli »

qingcharles wrote: post #100
shevy-java wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So ... like reddit! :) Thankfully I don't depend on any of such services. It would make me rather angry.

Reddit is the only platform that actually tells you that you are shadowbanned, so at least they are upfront about it, but their appeal system sucks. My friend just appealed every day for just over 600 days and finally got their account un-shadowbanned.

Isn’t that definitionally impossible? If they tell you about it then it’s not a shadow ban.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by MarkMarine »

bathory wrote: post #25
JimDabell wrote: post #6

OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

Anthropic claim that if you have a verification issue, they will give you support; remains to be seen what that will actually come down to

If you haven’t talked to Anthropic support yet you’re in for a surprise. I’m an engineer at a company with an enterprise contract, Anthropic people in our slack and it took me a month to get a response on my support request, I just decided it wasn’t worth it and bought a second phone number rather than wait.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by realusername »

alaudet wrote: post #73
Overpower0416 wrote: post #53

Yeah, not happening. Gonna hope for the open models getting better and staying with what I've got for now.

100% the exact second I get some popup telling me to upload documents to continue is when claude pro gets decommissioned.

Same, I won't upload ID documents for obvious security reasons

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by 827a »

Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to authenticate or be disallowed because of their place of birth. Pointless CYA, and beneath a research group whose intention is to invent the machine god.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by cute_boi »

> We are not collecting more than we need. We ask for the minimum information required to verify your identity.

You say this today, but your claude app is full of hidden telemetries and fingerprint identification. How can we trust you?

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by nicce »

xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

> It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like the the ones you enter...

Same? Multitude of magnitues worse. The amount of data and type that is given here is from different level. ISPs have mostly seen it in encrypted format.

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