Identity verification on Claude • Hacker News Board

xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

Net neutrality is about a natural monopoly - there can only be so many cell towers, satellites and fibre optic cables. This limits the number of ISPs. By contrast there is no natural limit to how many AI companies there can be.

I would prefer if we just nationalized this stuff but if we have to let private companies control limited resources we can at least enforce anti-trust rules. That's effectively what net-neutrality is - preventing the monopolists from colluding with sites to provide uneven access.

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Post by tumdum_ » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 1:34 PM UTC

furyofantares wrote: post #36

jacomoRodriguez wrote: post #33

Just canceled my subscription. I don't want my id data end up with persona and/or the us gov.

Wouldn't want the government to have your government-issued ID. I have no idea about Persona though.

I know that this may sound surprising, but US is not the only country in the world ;)

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Post by bko » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 1:34 PM UTC

xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

Maybe because all the predictions of the very vocal net neutrality crowd didn't manifest. It got memory holed and life just moved on. The only outcome was maybe a few cell phone carriers bumping your bandwidth limits for netflix streaming

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Post by bitmasher9 » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 1:35 PM UTC

inigyou wrote: post #14

xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

Net neutrality wasn't about ID checks.

Net neutrality was about processing network traffic differently based on who was sending the packets.

It’s not entirely dissimilar.

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Post by hazaskull » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 1:35 PM UTC

furyofantares wrote: post #36

jacomoRodriguez wrote: post #33

Just canceled my subscription. I don't want my id data end up with persona and/or the us gov.

Wouldn't want the government to have your government-issued ID. I have no idea about Persona though.

I would imagine this was written by someone not from the US.

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Post by secretslol » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

jacomoRodriguez wrote: post #33

Just canceled my subscription. I don't want my id data end up with persona and/or the us gov.

I cancelled too, unfortunately! And like Louis Rossman has been saying recently about Anthropic, the folk are "Bad people". The Persona partnership also cements that. I finally have an excuse (need) to test the other high-end coding models on the scene - and might save myself close to 200 per month at the same time for a possible win.