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Re: Identity verification on Claude

#51

I really don't like that headlines have been surfacing about the US government putting pressure on Anthropic, and now a short time later they are requiring ID's (albeit for certain use cases, but that's a slippery slope). I may very well stop using Claude due to this. Also, who is providing the verification service? We don't want another Discord situation. EDIT: Just saw it's Persona. Definitely dropping Claude now.

I suspect this new Anthropic requirement is coming from their ongoing negotiations with the government to re-enable Fable. Whatever "safety/security" measures the government requires of Anthropic will no doubt also be applied to other US "AI providers", perhaps based on assessed model capability. Apparently OpenAI already had an ID check in place before this.

What's going to be interesting is how the US government regulates US-based access to Chinese AI models, whether served domestically (e.g. GLM-5.2 from Amazon Bedrock, DeepInfra, etc), or from overseas.

I suppose if one fear is US domestic terrorists/hackers using AI, then restricting access to all models, regardless of country of origin, might make sense, but as far as restricting technology exports over national security concerns it wouldn't make much sense to restrict access to foreign models!

Crudely applied restrictions are likely to get worse before they potentially get better as the hype wears down and AI risk gets better assessed, but government control tends to be a one-way ratcheting up, so who knows. It's not inconceivable that the government may try to restrict use of local models too, which they could do by making it illegal to make open weights (maybe for selected models) available for download.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Or make a new account?

You risk being silenly flagged and get nerfed responses. Somehting like shadow dumbed down.

That is an inherent and unavoidable risk regardless, as things stand if you want access to frontier models you are at the mercy of their providers.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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You risk being silenly flagged and get nerfed responses. Somehting like shadow dumbed down.

That’s quite a claim. What’s your source for this?

Fable's model card provides the following as a relevant reference

https://xcancel.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2064949876463645026

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

Or make a new account?

The whole point of an identity check is that they know exactly who you are. If you tell them who you are and you fail the identity check, you can’t simply create a new account because when you go through the identity check for a second time you’ll still need to tell them exactly who you are, at which point they can match the new account to the original failure.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Wouldn't want the government to have your government-issued ID. I have no idea about Persona though.

I know that this may sound surprising, but US is not the only country in the world ;)

r/USdefaultism :)

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#60

Just canceled my subscription. I don't want my id data end up with persona and/or the us gov.

Wouldn't want the government to have your government-issued ID. I have no idea about Persona though.

In the EU and UK, data protection legislation applies to governments' handling of their subjects' data too.
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