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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by radicalbyte »

br0ceph wrote: post #236
radicalbyte wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An assumption, I made. Failed, it was.

I always advise ppl against ubiquiti devices. They are not open at all, its yet another proprietary router/switch/wifi/nas/etc

Keeping Linux-based devices up and running and somewhat reliable is horrible. I'm 45, I've spent 25 years doing that. Time I'll never get back. Time I'm spending with my kids instead of dicking around with an obscure bug caused by some random dude who is spending his free time doing thankless work maintaining some C code he wrote 40 years ago.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by ragall »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #183
sussexby wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

I am unable to accept that it is fully local, since you have to bind your network to their cloud just to accept the EULA. [0] I have 0% trust that a subsequent unbind truly severs the link, because this is such a shady thing to require in the first place. [0] https://community.ui.com/questions/e3d50641-5c00-4607-9723-4...

So once you accept the EULA, it's fully local. What's your problem with that ?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by ragall »

br0ceph wrote: post #236
radicalbyte wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An assumption, I made. Failed, it was.

I always advise ppl against ubiquiti devices. They are not open at all, its yet another proprietary router/switch/wifi/nas/etc

> They are not open at all

So what ? It's not possible to be reliable, open and have many features.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

ragall wrote: post #342
MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am unable to accept that it is fully local, since you have to bind your network to their cloud just to accept the EULA. [0] I have 0% trust that a subsequent unbind truly severs the link, because this is such a shady thing to require in the first place. [0] https://community.ui.com/questions/e3d50641-5c00-4607-9723-4...

So once you accept the EULA, it's fully local. What's your problem with that ?

The problem I have is that the Ubiquiti camera and Dream Machine I bought were sold to me as something whose features work fully offline and that I would not have to grant any 3rd-party access to my network. I refuse to grant such access for any length of time, and cannot trust that the access will be fully revoked thereafter because Ubiquity already broke that trust by demanding access to my devices when they advertised otherwise.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by irusensei »

gh02t wrote: post #66
jjcm wrote: post #60

What is the current state of ZFS? I know it had some licensing issues traditionally, despite it being a delight to use every time I've tried it. Is it back?

Never went away, Linux is now the primary target platform for OpenZFS (which is basically synonymous with ZFS these days). TrueNAS/iXSystems (probably the main commercial company using ZFS) moved from FreeBSD to Linux. Major new features like pool expansion have been added after years of requests. Etc., it's a good time for ZFS on Linux. There ARE licensing issues related to shipping it compiled into the kernel, but…

Still sucks that you need to verify if your kernel update is compatible with the external module.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by irusensei »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #328
dingdongditchme wrote: post #295

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I'm in the market for some wifi access points. If Ubiquiti is not so great can you name some alternatives?

Home: eero. they actually work really well. Business: aruba instant-on. They cost more and updates are much less frequent. They are also more reliable and the support experience is far superior even though it is HP.

Is the firmware open though?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by irusensei »

h4kunamata wrote: post #257

Ubiquiti bubble is so tiring, it is like AI bubble and Apple bubble. These people live within a bubble. Overpriced piece of hardware that you will never own because it runs proprietary firmware, you are forced to install apps to take full advantage from those devices.

I guess routers and access points are easy to replace with a normal OS but I’m yet to see a managed l2 or l3 switch that runs user provider OS. I’d ditch anything in an eye blink if there was some kind of fully open source network stack that can be controlled through infrastructure code. Affordable that is, not including that Nvidia thingie.
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