> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky - run by a non-profit foundation - Modal - that is building everything in the open, with full transparency, sharing all the steps in their development roadmap: And weirdly, there was never a peep about this in the press - while the W Social launch was on national news and a bunch of high-profile EU politicians immediately joined. What's going on here?
Mastodon is also European
W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s like saying that someone using Google Reader doesn’t “experience federation of RSS”. Yes, my experience using the Bluesky app includes the Bluesky app server aggregating from many independent PDS hosts (because people I follow like that). But it doesn’t show up in user experience because that’s the whole point . And yes, I can use another aggregator instead of the Bluesky app, or even use a client which has no…
And it works as smoothly for people on other app servers?
Users of different PDS would be the closest thing to a mastodon instance and there's thousands of different PDS without much issue. I'm on a "third party PDS" and I've had barely any issues.
I use a "third party" PDS, appview, PLC directory mirror, CDN, and client so 99.9% of my interaction with bluesky and atproto at large is independent of bluesky the corporation.
Despite using a third party "basically everything" my experience is essentially the same as a "default" bluesky user if not better in many ways
Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty
#124W Social felt extremely shady since their first advertisement on HN. Also, for all their talk about human verification, I have 6 accounts under different names :)
Super shady. The german public broadcaster gave them a 5 minute feature on yesterdays evening news, that felt more like a paid ad than journalism. The report made it sound like it is some kind of semi-official EU-endorsed project, but its just... a closed source, for-profit social network? I guess the folks behind it are just well connected in Brussels. Thank you but no thank you.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Super shady. The german public broadcaster gave them a 5 minute feature on yesterdays evening news, that felt more like a paid ad than journalism. The report made it sound like it is some kind of semi-official EU-endorsed project, but its just... a closed source, for-profit social network? I guess the folks behind it are just well connected in Brussels. Thank you but no thank you.
Saw that interview, too. Biggest red flag to me was the claim, that they would use the mandatory id-document only to initially verify your'e not a bot - then discard it and they would "not store anything". Very hard to believe.
Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty
#127Looking at the people who immediately joined and this being presented at WEF, this looks less like an EU BlueSky or X and more like an EU Truth Social - i.e. the core users seem to be EU politicians who don't want to depend on a platform owned by their political opponents for reach and so want to have their own platform.
Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty
#128How to create an account on #WSocial in 13 easy steps: 1. choose a username 2. choose a password 3. choose your interests 4. download the #WIdentity app to your phone (two options: Apple AppStore or Google Play Store) 5. scan a QR code 6. create a PIN code optional: enable biometrics; re-enter PIN 7. choose whether you simply want to verify that you're human or if you also want to verify your name 8. choose the verif…
> Seriously, join Mastodon! not bad but bluesky/eurosky is just better. activitypub based networks treat instances as sovereign with full control over users data. they can permanently delete your posts and the posts you see depend on who the admin wants to federate with. the only way to be independent is run your own server so non technical users get stuck under reddit style moderation. at protocol is global by defau…
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Probably marketers in this one. Marketers who know how to access politicians adn get invited to WEF. The distinction: marketers know how to trick people, lobbyists bribe them.
That's not lobbyism, that's straight corruption. Lobbyism is, at least in theory, about convincing politicians