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W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by danabramov »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #38
BigTuna wrote: post #4

An unfortunate step backwards. I'm cheering for Eurosky and open networks.

Eurosky actually looks like a promising alternative (speaking as non-european) but the AT protocol should have more open friendly competition than just the flagship instance of bluesky. Eurosky seems interesting as well.

Note that “instance” is Mastodon-brained and is a wrong way to think about atproto. The correct parallel is RSS / Google Reader.

Atproto has two types of things: hosting and apps.

- Hosting is like RSS. You can host your data on your own server and broadcast from it. It’s just an open source Docker container.

- Apps are like Google Reader. They aggregate from all hosts and usually build an index so they can show a rich view over the network. That’s what Bluesky, Leaflet, Tangled, etc, so.

So there is no “instance”. There’s hosting and there’s apps.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by georgemcbay »

RobotToaster wrote: post #59
mortarion wrote: post #51

The guy who runs W Social, whilst he has a software developer background, has worked most of his time in the financial world. W social is also an LLC. It's a corporation with shares looking to make a profit somehow. No doubt there will be ads on there, and paid features. I don't see how this will ever become a success, not because it's going closed source (people here don't care), or because it might have paid featur…

Maybe they just chose the letter before X?

This thread is the first time I've even heard of "W Social" so I have no specific insight into their naming, but I'd assume it comes from (gaming/lifestyle) streaming culture where "chatters" will often say "W " (good, win) or "L " (bad, lose) as short-form feedback on how they feel about .

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by tao_oat »

georgemcbay wrote: post #72
RobotToaster wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they just chose the letter before X?

This thread is the first time I've even heard of "W Social" so I have no specific insight into their naming, but I'd assume it comes from (gaming/lifestyle) streaming culture where "chatters" will often say "W " (good, win) or "L " (bad, lose) as short-form feedback on how they feel about .

This would make sense but seems unlikely to me, because the people involved come across as incredibly offline.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by addedGone »

pfraze wrote: post #34
jwr wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not necessarily. Mastodon is actually "social media", as opposed to twitter/X, bluewhatever, facebook, or any other commercial outlet, to be honest, all of these have become "feeds" of promoted content designed to maximize "engagement". Mastodon is social: you follow people, you see their stuff. It's what social media used to be.

Fyi it’s actually called bluesky, not bluewhatever

Bluesky is really lagging in user adoption because the name itself implies some sort of political divide, and from experience, it seems that it's an echo chamber where "right" activists are getting demolished at the first occasion, I wished it would have a mix of people and opinion.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by mystraline »

How to create an account on #WSocial in 13 easy steps:

1. choose a username

2. choose a password

3. choose your interests

4. download the #WIdentity app to your phone (two options: Apple AppStore or Google Play Store)

5. scan a QR code

6. create a PIN code

optional: enable biometrics; re-enter PIN

7. choose whether you simply want to verify that you're human or if you also want to verify your name

8. choose the verification method (automatic photo review, request a manual review or scan your passport chip)

9. scan your passport's picture page

10. scan your passport's chip

11. take a selfie

12. scan a QR code to link the W Identity to your W Social account

13. enter your PIN code

https://aseachange.com/@elena/statuses/01KVD55YBYVM3B46ACQTE...

Or.... How about not? Seriously, join Mastodon!

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by dolmen »

erxam wrote: post #42
jwr wrote: post #3

I don't understand why anyone would want to make the same mistake all over again: jumping onto a private platform owned by a company inevitably results in you becoming the product sold and enshittification. We've seen it so many times. Learn the lesson. Use Mastodon this time.

Call me when the Fediverse has a search function that actually fucking works. Most of my time in social media is spent searching for keywords of whatever I'm interested in, which is one thing which Mastodon is absolutely awful at. Also, while we’re at it, try to make Fediverse culture less insular and more open. There's no point in trying to reply to anyone since everyone hates everyone else. Pointless platform.

> Call me when the Fediverse has a search function that actually fucking works.

Actually that's a feature. If search doesn't work, there is less incentive for bots polluting others people searches.

On the other hand, search works so bad than even connecting to people you know on other networks is painful.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by pfraze »

addedGone wrote: post #74
pfraze wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi it’s actually called bluesky, not bluewhatever

Bluesky is really lagging in user adoption because the name itself implies some sort of political divide, and from experience, it seems that it's an echo chamber where "right" activists are getting demolished at the first occasion, I wished it would have a mix of people and opinion.

Wcyd? It was the name that Dorsey chose before the PBC was even formed. It's from the technical term of art, like greenfield.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by onraglanroad »

addedGone wrote: post #74
pfraze wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi it’s actually called bluesky, not bluewhatever

Bluesky is really lagging in user adoption because the name itself implies some sort of political divide, and from experience, it seems that it's an echo chamber where "right" activists are getting demolished at the first occasion, I wished it would have a mix of people and opinion.

I'm guessing that's because blue means left wing in the USA and red means right wing.

Why did you switch them around? Red always meant left wing. Even in the US red meant the Soviets. It's just confusing to everyone else.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Post by pocksuppet »

oytis wrote: post #60
maelito wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means that marketers won over technical, factual people.

Not marketers, lobbyists

Probably marketers in this one. Marketers who know how to access politicians adn get invited to WEF.

The distinction: marketers know how to trick people, lobbyists bribe them.

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