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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

What's UBNT?

Obviously it's the singular form of Ubuntu. Like, one "ubunt", two "ubuntu", etc.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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An assumption, I made. Failed, it was.

I always advise ppl against ubiquiti devices. They are not open at all, its yet another proprietary router/switch/wifi/nas/etc

So what do you actually recommend?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The drives are the expensive part, though - 16x24TB HDDs adds another $11k. (Not that you need that much for canceling streaming, I’d get a home Synology or diy TrueNAS for that anyway)

As a Synology owner, I would not recommend anyone to get into Synology at this point after the drive BS they pulled off. I'm planning on building myself a DIY server with Unraid instead.

Happy Unraid user here.

The ability to mix and match drives in the main Unraid Array is of course the original feature and draw. Adding a few TB at a time for whatever leftover money I had after taxes each year is really appealing.

But they've added SSD write caching, VMs, Docker containers, a Docker "app store", and recently ZFS drive clusters (mostly for SSD storage).

It's pretty great and incredibly easy to admin. I presently have well over 125TB of mixed Unraid and ZFS cluster storage in a Fractal 7 XL. It's running around 30 containers, a handful of VMs, Tailscale and literally requires less than 20 minutes a week of system level administration (probably more like 5-10 minutes). Of course I'm spending far more than that messing with the actual apps, but that's a personal problem ;)

It gets regular updates, and I'm sure my uptime would exceed a couple of years except for reboots needed to handle the updates and the occasional power outage. You can ignore the updates of course to min-max your uptime. ZFS has been rock solid on my SSD array.

You can recreate the core array bits with a bit of effort and MergeFS and SnapRAID, add Docker, some VM host system, ZFS and a few other things and you can get Unraid "for free" with a fairly normal Linux distro, but the administrative overhead will be a bit more.

One tradeoff is that Unraid exposes a core set of features for each of these, but you could get to quite a bit more specific of a configuration if you go the regular Linux route. The Unraid devs are slowly adding more ZFS features (for example) to the regular interface, but it takes time. Some more expeditionary Unraid user attempt to use those features more or less at their risk with results reported in various forums.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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A wooden battering ram from the ceiling does wonders. The fog&dog&log never fails.

That would legitimately be horrifying - you break in somewhere, suddenly all is dark and fog spreads everywhere, then the growling begins and then you're Ewok'd from behind by a tree.

A series of booby traps based on a phonetic pattern would be hilarious.

fog, dog, log, jog, hog, bog, pog, nog

Enveloping fog

Dogs and wild pigs set loose

Log launches at you off a treadmill

Trap door drops you into a flooded basement

Barrage of paper disks

Eggnog super soakers

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The biggest concern about Ubiquiti to me is still its software/infrastructure quality. Off top of my head, besides all the UI/UX glitches: - They once allowed a human employee to access static AWS root access key. - Their employee once claimed "remote access" was end to end encrypted, but later people figured out they probably just meant TLS in transit. - They had a configuration error that allowed some users to acce…

Also a lot of vulnerabilities: https://app.opencve.io/cve/?vendor=ubiquiti

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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They've been at this for a while. They do have offerings you subscribe for and pay monthly. They have also consistently offered an option for each of those offerings to bring your own or self host. They've earned my trust.

Recently they removed the option to take certain types of backup locally (for the Network app). Now it only does it to the cloud, for those who allow this. It’s these small things that make me cautiously pessimistic that long term Ubiquity won’t pull the rug from under the customers. Once you invest thousands in network equipment or cameras you’re less likely to jump ship when they start sneaking things in. And this…

It is their number one selling point vs. the competition. The space has already a dozen vendors with a healthy product mix.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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They've been at this for a while. They do have offerings you subscribe for and pay monthly. They have also consistently offered an option for each of those offerings to bring your own or self host. They've earned my trust.

Anything can be sold to PE.

Ubiquiti is a giant publicly traded company... Read about the CEO, this won't happen.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I had to fact check this. Turns out it is true. I was not aware on US stock exchange you can have a public company with less than 10% public float. This also makes the founder net worth of around $33B.

If you think that is bad, look into the spacex ipo. That tiny public offering is for stock that can barely vote and cannot bring shareholder actions, making them more NFTs than proper "shares" imho.

It's not bad. Great returns, company is extremely well run.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Yes. Although the amount of SpaceX stock that's available for public is fairly little.

And those classes available for the public has less voting rights than Elons stock so even worse.

So man makes company, man shares profitability of company with world to invest in. World complains they can't outvote man.
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