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*yet They will at some point just cash out.
They are already a public company.
You can take a public company private and then run it to the ground. See also: Twitter.
Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS
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The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.
Can I use it without running some inane management VM?
Genuine question, if you're running unifi, why don't you want the management vm? Synology makes a decent NAS without the controller.
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#83Did we decide ZFS is good after all this time?
ZFS is amazing. It feels like magic.
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Pays for itself in ~40 months of not paying $100/month for streaming services. Edit: Drives are not included :(
The drives are the expensive part, though - 16x24TB HDDs adds another $11k. (Not that you need that much for canceling streaming, I’d get a home Synology or diy TrueNAS for that anyway)
As a Synology owner, I would not recommend anyone to get into Synology at this point after the drive BS they pulled off. I'm planning on building myself a DIY server with Unraid instead.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can I use it without running some inane management VM?
Genuine question, if you're running unifi, why don't you want the management vm? Synology makes a decent NAS without the controller.
I like the hardware, cannot stand needing to run another machine just for management.
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Wireless Time Machine backup works until one day, Time Machine decides to shit the bed. Do not trust it. Invest in a different backup solution if your data is at all important to you. Something like Arq or Backblaze or tarsnap.
I use the 3-2-1 strategy for backups. I keep one copy off-site by using cloud backups, currently I primarily use Backblaze for that purpose but am considering alternatives for several reasons. I keep a second copy on an external SSD via Time Machine, and I keep one copy on-device. I'd like to use network Time Machine to get rid of the inconvenience of having a bunch of USB external SSDs floating around, especially si…
A 2-drive Synology (e.g. DS225+) in RAID 0 or RAID 1 works fine for this, for 90% less than this beast. Synology documented their optimal settings for Time Machine a couple years ago, too. Hope this is helpful. [1]
[1] https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/How_to_back_up_fi...
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#87> with ... no firmware restrictions on drive models, organizations can scale capacity without being restricted by proprietary hardware ecosystems. This looks like a dig at Synology, who do this.
They did it for a very short time. The community backlash was so bad that they recanted immediately. I'm not at all surprised that Ubiquiti is getting ahead of that and promising it from the start.
They still require you to buy their overpriced (even by AI bubble standards) NVMe drives with zero third-party support. There is a project that adds third-party SSD support for newer Synology devices, but you need to redo it every time your NAS updates, so it's very much unsupported. Would definitely not say that they "recanted immediately".
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#88I am highly interested in this, especially if it works well with Time Machine to do backups over the network. I've got a fully 10GbE + WiFi 7 network w/ Ubiquiti gear already, would love to ditch my janky DIY NAS setup for something that is integrated with the rest and could potentially give me a better backup setup for my photography as well as enough storage to act as a media server.
I have a UNAS-Pro, which runs the same Unifi Drive software as this, and it works great for Time Machine backups. Dead simple. I also have tons of other Ubiquiti gear, and honestly there's not a ton of synergy between the NAS and everything else. It's a great NAS though. And also, it's only a NAS. It's not an application server like a Synology NAS.
I only wish UNAS support ZFS.
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*yet They will at some point just cash out.
They've been at this for a while. They do have offerings you subscribe for and pay monthly. They have also consistently offered an option for each of those offerings to bring your own or self host. They've earned my trust.
Recently they removed the option to take certain types of backup locally (for the Network app). Now it only does it to the cloud, for those who allow this. It’s these small things that make me cautiously pessimistic that long term Ubiquity won’t pull the rug from under the customers.
Once you invest thousands in network equipment or cameras you’re less likely to jump ship when they start sneaking things in. And this is long lived equipment, not the kind you anyway replace every couple of years. So that’s a relatively strong lock-in.
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> I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit. 1. My UDM Pro absolutely chokes and stalls with intrusion detection enabled on the firewall and 8 cameras connected. Network goes down, cameras disconnect, devices disconnect from Wi-Fi every time a car drives past a camera due to AI features triggering, etc. For something meant for small businesses I wish they would just shove an Intel i5 or something in it. They ma…
Unifi docs say that the AI feature run directly on the camera or via optional devices like the AI Port or AI Key. Odd that it impacts your UDM Pro and wifi.
I'm sure even if the camera runs the neural net, the detection itself triggers clips to be stored, re-encoded, indexed, etc. and the UDM Pro's processor is underpowered even for this.
It's even underpowered for streaming -- I found Protect to be extremely laggy, taking often 30+ seconds to open the camera stream when 3-4 stream receivers were connected.