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Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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The product I want most is the ability to return to the late January 2026 version of Anthropic models.

This is why we need open weights for everything.

Nobody will cry when their AI girlfriend model gets revoked. You'll always have the weights.

Presumably for the low cost of spinning up an H200 or two you can use the weights forever.

No more claiming your LLM gets nerfed. No more claiming your video model can't do Spider-Man anymore.

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

It’s crucial to use for driving/walking. One problem has been ChatGpt/Claude apps don’t really do this well. They use weak and/or non-reasoning models for voice interaction and the UX is not optimized for hands free. I wrote an iOS chatbot app mainly for this purpose for myself and family/friends. Allows starting/sending voice prompts with the action button so I never have to look at the screen. Supports any model at…

What are the use cases of an LLM while walking or driving, that also require high reasoning?

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I hardly type at all now. I use Handy (free) with Parakeet and use its post-LLM processing feature with a custom prompt tailored towards coding, so I can say things like "Have it go to slash remote dash control" and it'll output "/remote-control". Converts brackets, etc. Everything is almost instant, it's insanely fast, and lets me work on multiple different agents/windows at the same time fast with cmux. I use the s…

What is Parakeet?

I believe this is the correct link. I use it too in Handy, for English and Spanish transcriptions: https://huggingface.co/nvidia/parakeet-tdt-0.6b-v3

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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DeepSeek interpreting screenshots and images I send it at fractions of what I pay Claude and ChatGPT, for me, is of far higher priority than supporting dictation. There are workarounds for dictation but not image processing.

Or you could just use a CNN...

Transformers are superior

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

#136

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Slightly off-topic but: does it concern you that you're letting atrophy a very important skill for human communication (organising your thoughts and ideas, and then clearly communicating them to others)?

As someone who's still learning English, this is one thing I'd never use AI for, at least not in the near future, simply because thinking and structuring my thoughts before typing is the same as it is before speaking and actually talking to other people can't be outsourced to AI. But I imagine if I'd been a native speaker I wouldn't mind using AI like OC does since it's a convenience. Same way I use a calculator for…

As a native English Speaker I can tell you that I would have some trouble talking out an email. I like the back and forth in my head of editing as I go. Text messaging may be fine but email is more difficult for me to just talk through.

I am loving the conversation here though of how people are using speech to talk to LLMs or not though, it is something that no one talks about much

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

#137

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Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

It’s crucial to use for driving/walking. One problem has been ChatGpt/Claude apps don’t really do this well. They use weak and/or non-reasoning models for voice interaction and the UX is not optimized for hands free. I wrote an iOS chatbot app mainly for this purpose for myself and family/friends. Allows starting/sending voice prompts with the action button so I never have to look at the screen. Supports any model at…

I mean, even applied voice 'models' suck for this.

For some godawful reason, Apple Maps voice directions assume that you also understand what it omits. So if it says "turn right in 500 meters" "250 meters" and then you stop at an intersection after 150 meters and it says "turn right", it expects you to understand that it doesn't mean the immediate right at the intersection, but the next one [because you still haven't driven the full 250m]. It is nuts and I have no clue how that has ever gotten past testing.

What it should do is say nothing until I have to turn, or say "turn right in 100 meters" "turn right".

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI. My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it. Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (whic…

Sending me your AI compressed ramblings = straight in the bin

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

#139

I already had it for months? What's the news here?

In the past, they just ran Deepseek OCR on your image and extracted the text, then gave it to a language only model. I believe now there is a model that actually takes images as input directly.

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

#140

The main thing here is, there are doing it really cheap!

I heavily using Deepseek V4 Pro for a personal project because I cannot afford Opus, and spent ~1B token last two weeks for just $40 which would've costed ~$1300 using Opus 4.8. Realistically Opus cost will be lower assuming more "intelligent" model would've produced less code with fewer conversation but I doubt it'll be cheaper than ~$500.

I'm curious to know how they can they offer at such a cheap price. Some say it's electricity surplus in China and/or government subsidy. It'll be a very interesting read if there's an extensive study on their economics.

   1.1B (cache reads) * $0.5 = ~576
   39M (ache miss) * $5 = ~199
   21M (output) * $25 = ~529
   Opus 4.8 = 1304

   1.1B (cache reads) * $0.003625 = ~4.17
   39M (ache miss) * $0.435 = ~17.3
   21M (output) * $0.87 = ~18.4
   Deepseek V4 Pro = ~40
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