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Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by WarmWash »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #106
paulluuk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

It’s crucial to use for driving/walking. One problem has been ChatGpt/Claude apps don’t really do this well. They use weak and/or non-reasoning models for voice interaction and the UX is not optimized for hands free. I wrote an iOS chatbot app mainly for this purpose for myself and family/friends. Allows starting/sending voice prompts with the action button so I never have to look at the screen. Supports any model at…

Gemini 3.1 flash live is a native audio to audio model with reasoning. But it's still not a SOTA level model

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by thefreeman »

rob wrote: post #102
paulluuk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

I hardly type at all now. I use Handy (free) with Parakeet and use its post-LLM processing feature with a custom prompt tailored towards coding, so I can say things like "Have it go to slash remote dash control" and it'll output "/remote-control". Converts brackets, etc. Everything is almost instant, it's insanely fast, and lets me work on multiple different agents/windows at the same time fast with cmux. I use the s…

Can you share more information on the post-LLM processing and the prompt you use? I would like to try this out but don't see any post-LLM options in Handy.

edit: nevermind, found info on the docs about how to enable post processing. Would still be interested in your prompt though if you don't mind sharing!

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by itake »

jnovek wrote: post #85
itake wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI. My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it. Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (whic…

I would find this behavior extremely aggravating from a co-worker. If you can’t be bothered to edit down your ramblings by hand, just don’t send me anything at all.

Maybe you missed my point?

I can either edit down my rambling by hand (costs about 10-30min depending on the length) or I can ask chatGPT for assistance, where I manually edit chatgpt's edits for factual correctness and tone.

--- STT

Like, besides the lease risk, I think 30 to 50% of the business is going to end the moment the owner stops showing up and the motorbikes are gone. Either, I think it was Roger mentioned or you mentioned the Google reviews all mentioned that people go to the bar because it attracts other motorcycle people. And, you know, we don't have an existing, like, network to come in and grow this. And so we might see a 30 to 50% decline in revenue within a month or two with nothing ready to, like, backfill that with. And if our main goal is to make a private club or event space, ideally, I'd like to have some, like, something substantial to, like, commit to that spot. Like, right now, we're three fucking dudes with, you know, a little bit of a vision, but not really. And, you know, we're buying what will be a failing bar unless we, you know, figure out how to run events or use that backspace.

polish

---- gpt5.5

Polished version:

Separate from the lease risk, I think there is a real chance that 30–50% of the business disappears once the current owner stops showing up and the motorbikes are gone.

Either Roger mentioned this, or we discussed it separately, but the Google reviews seem to reinforce the same point: a meaningful part of the bar’s appeal is that it attracts motorcycle people. We do not currently have an existing network or community that can step in and replace that traffic.

That means we could see a 30–50% revenue decline within the first month or two, with no clear plan in place to backfill it. If the main goal is to turn the space into a private club or event venue, I would feel much better if we had something substantial already committed to that location.

Right now, we are three guys with a loose vision, but not much concrete traction. Without a clearer plan for events, memberships, or activating the back space, we may effectively be buying a bar that starts failing the moment the current identity and customer base disappear.

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by itake »

garblegarble wrote: post #91
itake wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI. My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it. Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (whic…

Slightly off-topic but: does it concern you that you're letting atrophy a very important skill for human communication (organising your thoughts and ideas, and then clearly communicating them to others)?

Tbh, I never have been a good writer. A college professor once told me I am a terrible writer. I've tried to get better (I read a lot, I write a lot, I've taken multiple college level writing course). I even started a blog (https://kcoleman.me).

I kinda view myself as a wheelchair user. I'm bad at walking so I use at wheelchair so I can at least have a semblance of decent communication. I don't think my ideas are not worth sharing, but I'm just bad at writing them in an engaging way.

The scarier thing for me is coding. I am good at coding. But I don't even read a single line of code any more.

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by itake »

limflick wrote: post #107
garblegarble wrote: post #91

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Slightly off-topic but: does it concern you that you're letting atrophy a very important skill for human communication (organising your thoughts and ideas, and then clearly communicating them to others)?

As someone who's still learning English, this is one thing I'd never use AI for, at least not in the near future, simply because thinking and structuring my thoughts before typing is the same as it is before speaking and actually talking to other people can't be outsourced to AI. But I imagine if I'd been a native speaker I wouldn't mind using AI like OC does since it's a convenience. Same way I use a calculator for…

You're probably further into english than I am into vietnamese, but I really like using AI to help me improve my vocabulary and understanding of the language.

I avoid using AI as a direct translation tool, but its super useful for me to translate complex english ideas to vietnamese.

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by rob »

thefreeman wrote: post #122
rob wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hardly type at all now. I use Handy (free) with Parakeet and use its post-LLM processing feature with a custom prompt tailored towards coding, so I can say things like "Have it go to slash remote dash control" and it'll output "/remote-control". Converts brackets, etc. Everything is almost instant, it's insanely fast, and lets me work on multiple different agents/windows at the same time fast with cmux. I use the s…

Can you share more information on the post-LLM processing and the prompt you use? I would like to try this out but don't see any post-LLM options in Handy. edit: nevermind, found info on the docs about how to enable post processing. Would still be interested in your prompt though if you don't mind sharing!

You have to enable "Experimental Features" under "Advanced."

This is the prompt I use (it's probably overkill and can be condensed):

https://pastebin.com/raw/RUVAqLCU

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by ezconnect »

rob wrote: post #102
paulluuk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

I hardly type at all now. I use Handy (free) with Parakeet and use its post-LLM processing feature with a custom prompt tailored towards coding, so I can say things like "Have it go to slash remote dash control" and it'll output "/remote-control". Converts brackets, etc. Everything is almost instant, it's insanely fast, and lets me work on multiple different agents/windows at the same time fast with cmux. I use the s…

What is Parakeet?

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by stijnveken »

ezconnect wrote: post #127
rob wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hardly type at all now. I use Handy (free) with Parakeet and use its post-LLM processing feature with a custom prompt tailored towards coding, so I can say things like "Have it go to slash remote dash control" and it'll output "/remote-control". Converts brackets, etc. Everything is almost instant, it's insanely fast, and lets me work on multiple different agents/windows at the same time fast with cmux. I use the s…

What is Parakeet?

Maybe they meant narakeet?

https://www.narakeet.com/tools/

Re: DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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Post by segmondy »

tw1984 wrote: post #40

what is more interesting to me is why it takes so long for them to support vision. does it implies that Liang believes vision/voice is less important on its way to AGI?

They are not playing pissing fest. They have revolutionary research on Vision if you read their white papers, they just take their time. Every major release from them has brought something really new to the field, V3, R1, OCR, V3.2, V4.
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