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And weirdly, there was never a peep about this in the press - while the W Social launch was on national news and a bunch of high-profile EU politicians immediately joined. What's going on here?
I don't understand why anyone would want to make the same mistake all over again: jumping onto a private platform owned by a company inevitably results in you becoming the product sold and enshittification. We've seen it so many times. Learn the lesson. Use Mastodon this time.
Nobody important or worth following uses Mastodon. Also Mastodon is on the road to enshittification since the previous CEO and founder bowed out for $1M using donations and the main instance federates with Meta's Threads. The other instances are out of the question since one rogue instance owner can lock and shutdown that instance.
A "main instance" is contrary to the whole idea of a Fediverse anyway.
> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky - run by a non-profit foundation - Modal - that is building everything in the open, with full transparency, sharing all the steps in their development roadmap: And weirdly, there was never a peep about this in the press - while the W Social launch was on national news and a bunch of high-profile EU politicians immediately joined. What's going on here?
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I'd go further - just leave social media
No, not necessarily. Mastodon is actually "social media", as opposed to twitter/X, bluewhatever, facebook, or any other commercial outlet, to be honest, all of these have become "feeds" of promoted content designed to maximize "engagement". Mastodon is social: you follow people, you see their stuff. It's what social media used to be.
> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky Why is this a different network? Are Eurosky relays not indexing anything outside Eurosky?
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And what is that experience of yours? Do you have experience from deployments with many independent atproto data servers and relays federating together? Or do you have experience from bluesky, meaning you're only interacting with one central server and none of the complexities of federation come into play?
That’s like saying that someone using Google Reader doesn’t “experience federation of RSS”. Yes, my experience using the Bluesky app includes the Bluesky app server aggregating from many independent PDS hosts (because people I follow like that). But it doesn’t show up in user experience because that’s the whole point . And yes, I can use another aggregator instead of the Bluesky app, or even use a client which has no…
An unfortunate step backwards. I'm cheering for Eurosky and open networks.
> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky Why is this a different network? Are Eurosky relays not indexing anything outside Eurosky?
My understanding is that Eurosky aims to be a non-profit ran alternative, hosted in EU. It integrates with Bluesky seamlessly (Bsky users and EUSky users can interact) but would keep working if Bluesky was taken down. I believe it also gives Eurosky agency when it comes to moderation.
W Social felt extremely shady since their first advertisement on HN. Also, for all their talk about human verification, I have 6 accounts under different names :)