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Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Yes, correct. Singling out companies based on political beefs and to incentivize everyone to curry favor is the worst way to do regulation.

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You can be annoyed by a person or company without wanting the federal government of the United States to grind a personal axe against that person or company.

What you're advocating for here is banana republic governance. It's bad.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Any company building this kind of tech should have a separate shell headquarters on some low regulation island country. Any government work can be done via MOU with a US subsidiary staffed by Americans. This kind of capricious, unexplained control is bullsh*t. I’m not saying that I want companies to have to go offshore or that that would be a good thing. Just that you’ve got no leverage if your corporate structure ca…

> Any company building this kind of tech should have a separate shell headquarters on some low regulation island country.

Like where? How about Cuba? Where Guantanamo is, where we put terrorists because we don't want them to be subject to US laws (or more specifically, we don't want ourselves to be subject to those laws when we are dealing with said terrorists). How about no.

International law has only as much power as the biggest military willing to enforce it. Hiding on some little island is not at all a good strategy for trying to evade the US government.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Blocking one model is not regulation. The comments on this so far are wild.

... it isn't? What word would you use for a government policy that controls the behavior of a private company? The word for that kind of policy is "regulation".

There is no policy.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Amazon did not remove any guardrails from Fable.

What? I personally experienced Fable outright refuse to do ANY security-related tasks, including hardening code or modifying security-related features. That was a guardrail. It was bypassed. Anthropic themselves specifically called them safeguards. [1] "When Fable’s classifiers detect a request related to cybersecurity, biology and chemistry, or distillation, the response is automatically handled by Claude Opus 4.8 i…

They got Fable to fix bugs, including security issues, which is what it is supposed to do.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Blocking one model is not regulation. The comments on this so far are wild.

bad regulation is still regulation

> regulation /,rɛɡjʊ'leɪʃən/

>noun

>the act of controlling or directing according to rule

So where is the rule? There is no rule. There is just a random order. This is not regulation.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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They were asking for regulation. They were not asking to be singled out and prevented from releasing newer models while everybody else keeps going as usual. Based on the reasoning for blocking Fable, every current model should be blocked. GPT 5.5 is similarly strong and has fewer guardrails, for example.

> They were asking for regulation. That's what they said, but were they, really? I've heard others call it a marketing ploy that AI companies keep coming back to-- the idea that "it's soooo dangerous, we have to be careful".

I can't see into their heads, and I also don't think it matters whether they were making a good-faith argument or lying through their teeth. The fact remains that what is currently happening is not what Anthropic asked for.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Frankly, they've been asking for the AI industry to be regulated. They just didn't expect it would be just them. Although I'm going to say here now that I think this is going to have a broader ripple effect all the way down to open source and foreign countries developed models.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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> Government arbitrarily picking and choosing Their CEO was asking for it. Their whole marketing angle is their model is so powerful and dangerous. Someone showed the government how the powerful and dangerous features can be unlocked with a 'fix bugs' prompt then it when and did exactly what their CEO asked for.

And yet, "not like this" is still the correct conclusion to draw with respect to this kind of corrupt political favoritism.

Where is the favoritism? Did other CEOs come out and say their models are crazy dangerous? Dario asked for this behavior and he got it. I guess he hoped to kneecap Deepseek or others. That's how companies operate, once they are big enough they want all the regulations because they know they can navigate them and others catching up may not be able to. Their own fear mongering around this demand backfired.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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They were asking for regulation. They were not asking to be singled out and prevented from releasing newer models while everybody else keeps going as usual. Based on the reasoning for blocking Fable, every current model should be blocked. GPT 5.5 is similarly strong and has fewer guardrails, for example.

> They were asking for regulation. That's what they said, but were they, really? I've heard others call it a marketing ploy that AI companies keep coming back to-- the idea that "it's soooo dangerous, we have to be careful".

> That's what they said, but were they, really?

Yes, most likely, but not in this form, obviously. They want open weight models regulated for regulatory capture, and I'd assume they want an actually documented framework applied equally across all labs.

If GPT5.5 has the same capabilities Fable did, then for consistency sake, it should have also been subject to this ban.

Regulate or not regulate, but the government should not pick winners and losers.

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