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Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. They also wanted more regulation around AI. I'm guessing they're no longer quite as interested in this.

Blocking one model is not regulation. The comments on this so far are wild.

... it isn't? What word would you use for a government policy that controls the behavior of a private company? The word for that kind of policy is "regulation".

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Are you saying that you think the US government is unpredictable and arbitrary, but that the People’s Republic of China is not? Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)? It seems to me that in the case of AI (as with many other modern technologies), you rely on vendor/creator support and updates to stay relevant, so the ‘next’ model ma…

Open weight models don’t allow central oversight. That’s the difference.

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Anthropic declares: "Mythos is too dangerous too release to the public" Proceeds to release Mythos plus safety guardrails as Fable. Amazon removes guardrails from Fable, getting access to Mythos. Government takes Anthropic's word for it and tells them to pull it until the guardrails can't be removed. They refuse. Government forces them.

This doesn’t sound like a jailbreak

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48552687

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Are you saying that you think the US government is unpredictable and arbitrary, but that the People’s Republic of China is not? Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)? It seems to me that in the case of AI (as with many other modern technologies), you rely on vendor/creator support and updates to stay relevant, so the ‘next’ model ma…

Not OP and I wholly agree, but you can’t dismiss the fact that they are releasing those weights. Their agenda is quite obviously to make Anthropic and OpenAI CFOs sweat bullets, but it isn’t our problem as AI consumers, right?

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Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Are you saying that you think the US government is unpredictable and arbitrary, but that the People’s Republic of China is not? Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)? It seems to me that in the case of AI (as with many other modern technologies), you rely on vendor/creator support and updates to stay relevant, so the ‘next’ model ma…

I interpret the comment as saying there are lots of viable models and it's now crystal clear personal cloud or local Ai is the only reliable path.

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Anthropic declares: "Mythos is too dangerous too release to the public" Proceeds to release Mythos plus safety guardrails as Fable. Amazon removes guardrails from Fable, getting access to Mythos. Government takes Anthropic's word for it and tells them to pull it until the guardrails can't be removed. They refuse. Government forces them.

> Amazon removes guardrails from Fable, getting access to Mythos. This doesn't seem like an accurate description to me. I think something like "Amazon demonstrates a jailbreak of one class of Fable guardrails" would be a more accurate description. It doesn't even really mess up your narrative to state it accurately, but your choice of a more hyperbolic statement brings into question the good faith of the narrative yo…

Seems it was even less

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48552687

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Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

>> I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will.

And you think China will not do the same thing if their models ever become genuinely frontier-level?

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Good luck with your trade secrets I guess
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