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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 7:47 AM UTC

40four wrote: post #130

dhosek wrote: post #120

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I have the same issue your mom does. First-person shooters give me motion sickness (which is why I never got past the first level of Wolfenstein back in the day). Maybe the newer FPS games would be better for my brain, but I don’t have much interest in trying.

Yeah that makes sense, rapid onscreen movement, but your surroundings are fixed. I feel like you hear of that version less often, but it interesting it basically the inverse of the other kind.

I only get it watching other people play, playing myself and being in control of the motion doesn’t seem to bother me.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by a022311 » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 7:47 AM UTC

gf000 wrote: post #121

Dibby053 wrote: post #98

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>no data can be exfiltrated. Well, that depends on the other apps you have installed. Unless things have changed in newer versions, apps with no networking can still do IPC, so any app can for example use Cronet to make network requests via Google Play Services, regardless of the toggle, as long as sandboxed Google Play Services has network permission.

Good point and thanks for the heads up. Mostly asking it as a question, given that graphene runs Google play services (optionally) as a normal, sandboxed service with no special permissions might help a bit, but I guess unless you disable networking for every other service installed, this is sort of impossible to plug 100%? IPC can be quite the security hole.

Yes IPC is definitely a security hole, but because the two apps communicating need to both explicitly support it (I really doubt there'd be an exploitable vulnerability here of all places), it's a much smaller concern. Here I'd mainly worry about apps like Google Photos talking to Google Play Services. GrapheneOS has mentioned they'd like to implement IPC scopes to isolate apps, just like contact scopes and storage scopes.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by a022311 » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 7:49 AM UTC

Cider9986 wrote: post #125

nopakos wrote: post #58

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Network permissions could be used to avoid ads on Android. The horror!

And it even fails in the way that apps will see no-wifi and believe the entire device is offline. That way they can't detect it and mess around without harming regular offline users.

Depends. One of the reasons I stopped using Spotify was because its offline mode refused to work when my device had all radios off (who even thought of this?). Once I turned on Wi-Fi, even without connecting to a network, it would load immediately.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by volkanvardar » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 7:54 AM UTC

King-Aaron wrote: post #183

40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

Yeah I have a similar issue to you. If I look at my phone screen for a few minutes on the bus, I feel like I'm going to vomit. In fact most days that I commute on the bus I feel dreadful the entire way. Strap me into my race car on the weekend and pull G's in the corners... no problems at all. Sit me back on the bus, I want to throw up. The dots on the iPhone do help a little bit. I wouldn't say it cures me, but I ca…

Even just checking the time on phone makes me feel sick. I'm using Apple cues from the day they released. It helps, but I still cannot respond to Whatsapp messages. I envy people who can use their phones, laptops during a ride.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by orangepanda » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 8:06 AM UTC

40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

The dots do help a little, but not much. I wouldnt use my phone for long while in a vehicle, though at the very least I no longer dread having to briefly read a text message if I have to.

I found your note on bad drivers interesting. For me, it's the quick acceleration, braking and turning that's the worst. A bit anecdotal, but I also experience car sickness less with women drivers. Maybe because they're usually easier on the acceleration and brakes?

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 8:12 AM UTC

i_idiot wrote: post #79

I wonder if this might work for my sickness with 3D apps and games on desktop. Even watching Minecraft is nauseating

No, that is the opposite issue.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 8:13 AM UTC

ocimbote wrote: post #78

> She uses Apple’s Vehicle Motion Cues now, too, because they’ve been a game changer for how we balance work with life on the road. So the author is telling us they're having more work- and screen-time while on the road. Great, that sounds like exactly what we need...

That is exactly what passengers need so they can get work done during dead time and have more fun time available.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 8:17 AM UTC

markus_zhang wrote: post #173

osiciwjdiwidu wrote: post #47

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Why the hell would you be using your phone during a goddamned rollercoaster ride?

I’d do anything to reduce the motion sickness. I don’t have to hold the phone. I can bundle it on my arm.

I don’t get car sick (or small plane sick, haven’t ridden a big plane in decades or a train ever) and I don’t get roller coaster sick.

However, I can only ride one of those small fair rides that go in a circle or I will get sick.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by ascorbic » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 8:18 AM UTC

ramraj07 wrote: post #33

advisedwang wrote: post #14

Seems like there's a few android equivalents: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panshen.mo... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid... And even one that claims to work with sound: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.a1... EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird.

Be careful with these apps. The permissions they ask for are quite expansive.

KineStop at least claims to collect no user data, and has no ads: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.urbandr...

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by cronin101 » Wed, Jun 17, 2026, 9:22 AM UTC

Off topic (but helpfully hopeful to someone!): In the rare cases where I get motion sick I can usually "hack" my way out of it by closing my eyes and imagining myself skiing down a mountain avoiding obstacles in an erratic path that matches the patterns of motion I'm feeling (calculated JIT).

Presumably you have to have a lot of experience skiing for this to work, but there are probably isomorphic activities (weaving around a crowd? Playing dodgeball?) that can hack your brain in a similar way.