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Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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> to reduce or, in my case, even eliminate the motion sickness felt when trying to use an iPhone, iPad, or MacBook inside a moving vehicle. Does it also help people who get carsick without looking at a screen? I get carsick in pretty much any modern car, unless I'm the one driving.

Yes. Ive been using for a long time now. Im middle aged and get sick easily (example: vomited last plane ride). Doesnt matter what i do, despite being inconsistent.

These dots help tremendously. On airplanes and commuter trains and such, i just pop open phone and stare at screen, sometimes a blank note even. It has helped me clearly see: My brain does not perceive acceleration correctly. When it can visualize the motion with the dots, somehow that helps cue it in as to what is really happening. I am very often surprised at the direction of acceleration, ie when the plane is turning, if im not looking out the window, i think i would be unable to tell you if the plane is turning or not; but the dots are flying sideways off the screen - ah.

My favorite discovery which really cemented this, and a good correlary to how even looking out the window is not enough: When the commuter train stops, and is no longer moving, the dots on the screen will remain moving (forward, ie im reverse) a few moments. Or when the plane is taking off and shifts from straight to up, the dots often stop moving, or change direction.

This change in acceleration you feel, which is not merely "which direction are we going", is the part brains like mine arent picking up right. These dots help a ton. I wish i could embed them into glasses - one day!

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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post #70

Unlike many obvious inventions, this is novel enough to deserve patent protection.

Why? Volvo famously gave away seatbelts to everyone so that it benefits the humanity.

Why do you want something useful like this to be with a company? Isnt it better if everyone in the world benefitted from this?

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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> to reduce or, in my case, even eliminate the motion sickness felt when trying to use an iPhone, iPad, or MacBook inside a moving vehicle. Does it also help people who get carsick without looking at a screen? I get carsick in pretty much any modern car, unless I'm the one driving.

I've been the same way my whole life. Utterly miserable with profuse sweating across my entire body when it does happen, and then I'll feel varying degrees of nauseous and uncomfortable in other ways until I wake up the next day.

The method I've settled into for consistent results is:

1. Eat a full meal & hydrate 30+ minutes before traveling. Sometimes this involves overeating in a day, but the alternative is worse for me. 2. Take 6.25-12.5mg of meclizine 30-45 minutes before traveling (quarter, third, or half of a standard meclizine tablet depending on road conditions -- windy, hilly, and/or frequent stop-and-go traffic for long periods of time = half, while a mostly straight road with smooth acceleration = quarter). 3. Eat small amounts (periodic snacking) while traveling; more sugary foods like dried mango seems to work best. 4. Include ginger in any form with the snacking (sometimes I'll simply cut a chunk of raw ginger and take small bites out of it).

I don't even bother trying to read or use electronics while in a car or while on a flight during any taxiing or ascent/descent. Some buses or trains are circumstantially fine. Definitely will be trying some of the Android versions of this.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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> And it's why reading in the car gets some people so horribly sick. As a kid, I was told to turn 90° so that the back and forth of my eyes reading were in line with the motion of the car. This was soooo before any kind of electronic devices. Hell, the radio in the car still had the giant push buttons for saving stations.

...and did it work?

I've never gotten car sick from reading like this, so ::shrug:: It's helped other people I tell from what I've been told

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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You might ask why motion sickness even exists in the first place. Why do nausea and vomiting make sense when your body is in a car or on a boat? Nobody knows for sure, but there's a convincing theory. Zillions of years ago, we were foragers. We ate what we found. And if we ate something bad, like a poisonous berry, we could die. One of the first symptoms of neurotoxin ingestion is that your eyes lose their tracking a…

> And it's why reading in the car gets some people so horribly sick. As a kid, I was told to turn 90° so that the back and forth of my eyes reading were in line with the motion of the car. This was soooo before any kind of electronic devices. Hell, the radio in the car still had the giant push buttons for saving stations.

what I was taught (and what still works for me) is to look out the front window, never the sides, and pick a as far away (ideally on the horizon) to focus on.

the theory being, at constant velocity in a straight line, your body feels at rest, so you want to look somewhere that reinforces that. looking out the side window has scenery rushing past, which is the opposite.

turning sideways and reading sounds like a nightmare.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Do they have a boat version of this? I get car sick easily but on open water I have to sit and watch the horizon or it's adios cookies.

It is specifically for using your phone. So I don’t know if it would help. I don’t think it’s actually driving specific, I think it just is based on the accelerometer. So it might work.

It helps even if not actually using your phone, and for all kinds of motion.

(am highly succeptible to motion sickness, i generally have the feature on at all times).

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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> She uses Apple’s Vehicle Motion Cues now, too, because they’ve been a game changer for how we balance work with life on the road.

So the author is telling us they're having more work- and screen-time while on the road. Great, that sounds like exactly what we need...

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