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Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by gf000 »

Dibby053 wrote: post #98
Cider9986 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.

>no data can be exfiltrated. Well, that depends on the other apps you have installed. Unless things have changed in newer versions, apps with no networking can still do IPC, so any app can for example use Cronet to make network requests via Google Play Services, regardless of the toggle, as long as sandboxed Google Play Services has network permission.

Good point and thanks for the heads up.

Mostly asking it as a question, given that graphene runs Google play services (optionally) as a normal, sandboxed service with no special permissions might help a bit, but I guess unless you disable networking for every other service installed, this is sort of impossible to plug 100%? IPC can be quite the security hole.

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Post by AndriyKunitsyn »

Groxx wrote: post #57
Cider9986 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.

It's wild to me that "internet access" is not revokable or even displayed in the Play Store in stock Android. It's such a huge security and privacy concern, even if most apps semi-legitimately need it. Or, it would be wild, if it weren't fairly obvious that this is just Google protecting their mobile ad revenue.

There's basically zero apps without some sort of analytics nowadays.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by recursive »

mmcclure wrote: post #54

As a kid I didn't get carsick at all. I could work on my laptop, read, whatever while my parents drove. As an adult, at some point I started to barely be able to do anything but keep my eyes on the road without feeling bad. Turned these on recently, and they work bizarrely well...unfortunately. Downside is that I feel like I lost an excuse to avoid devices for a few minutes while traveling.

An excuse? You do you, but who is asking you for justifications? You can just put the phone down.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by tasuki »

modeless wrote: post #62

They don't cure my kids' or wife's car sickness, unfortunately. I'm not sure the implementation is as good as it could be. It seems a bit rough. Motion sickness is an overlooked problem. A large percentage of the population has severe, almost debilitating motion sickness. It curtails a ton of travel. Almost all transportation and tourism related businesses would stand to benefit hugely from a real cure, not to mentio…

> They don't cure my kids' or wife's car sickness, unfortunately.

Isn't it a better "cure" to look out the window rather than stare at a screen?

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by Cider9986 »

nopakos wrote: post #58
Cider9986 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.

Network permissions could be used to avoid ads on Android. The horror!

And it even fails in the way that apps will see no-wifi and believe the entire device is offline. That way they can't detect it and mess around without harming regular offline users.

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Post by RandallBrown »

cloverich wrote: post #77
MBCook wrote: post #45

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It is specifically for using your phone. So I don’t know if it would help. I don’t think it’s actually driving specific, I think it just is based on the accelerometer. So it might work.

It helps even if not actually using your phone, and for all kinds of motion. (am highly succeptible to motion sickness, i generally have the feature on at all times).

How does it help if you aren't using the phone?

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Post by joshschreuder »

port11 wrote: post #93
40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

It’s a great feature, I’ve been testing it while we drive in the Greek mountains. I don’t know why it’s buried so deep in Settings.

You can add it as a Control Center toggle as well which is useful for quickly enabling / disabling without digging through the settings

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Post by gabeio »

port11 wrote: post #93
40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

It’s a great feature, I’ve been testing it while we drive in the Greek mountains. I don’t know why it’s buried so deep in Settings.

You don't need to hide it so deeply, it can be added to your control panel add the control 'vehicle motion cues' and you can add a button which allows you to change it between on/auto/off.

I highly recommend people look through apple's accessibility features every major release they seem to quietly release some real gems.

They hid a whole app for sleep/chill/productivity/wellbeing sounds in there as well!

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Post by browningstreet »

modeless wrote: post #116
browningstreet wrote: post #115

As someone with persistent BPPV, I need anti-nausea dots in life.

Wow, the Epley maneuver doesn't help, huh? I don't think these dots would help either, as their movement wouldn't match the inner ear sensation you feel.

Not really, I've been to various docs for this.. one said BPPV attacks usually hit people 1-3x in a lifetime, I average that per year. Head MRI revealed nothing interesting. It's much diminished from its peak abuse of my system, but I have low-grade persistent vertigo that shows up if I move too fast, like turning in a closet.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by 40four »

dhosek wrote: post #120
40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

I have the same issue your mom does. First-person shooters give me motion sickness (which is why I never got past the first level of Wolfenstein back in the day). Maybe the newer FPS games would be better for my brain, but I don’t have much interest in trying.

Yeah that makes sense, rapid onscreen movement, but your surroundings are fixed. I feel like you hear of that version less often, but it interesting it basically the inverse of the other kind.
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