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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Semaphor »

OtomotO wrote: post #257
sivers wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…

What about banking Apps? No problem there? Some of them have ridiculous secur... compliance rules.

The vast majority work, check this list for details: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by ccppurcell »

xvedejas wrote: post #171
phreack wrote: post #84

That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.

I just moved away from GrapheneOS to Motorola because I decided I needed an audio jack again. There's definitely some annoying things about leaving, but at least now I can use again the three apps that didn't work for me on GrapheneOS...

Which phone and is it android then? Maybe I'm out of the loop on Motorola. I just bought a pixel, thinking of trying graphene. I was a bit miffed about the lack of jack until my partner pointed out I hadn't used the one on my old phone for over a year. I'd like to in the future though.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by OtomotO »

MIL-STD wrote: post #253
cybertim wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Graphene is NOT a jailbroken/rooted OS, its a real secure unrooted, bootloader locked OS, and MS Authenticotor works just fine. If anything does not work its related to dependency of the App maker on a certain attestation google play services grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

Root =/= insecure. You probably have administrator access on your home computer operating system, and can very likely do online banking via the web browser with no issues. A secure API is possible regardless of the host metal, operating system, or user permissions.

Bingo!

Compliance =!= Security

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by matheusmoreira »

wraptile wrote: post #227
matheusmoreira wrote: post #106

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> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite difficult for me.

Not only obtaining but if you ever need warranty you're done. Just last week I went to a Samsung center and had my fold 6 fixed in 30 minutes, and these centers are everywhere around the world. Same thing with Apple, yet a 4.5 trillion dollar company can't ship and maintain a phone globally. It's so unserious.

Yeah. Could be difficult even if one is willing to forgo the warranty. My city has local repair services, they easily repaired my old Samsung phone. Servicing Pixels could be difficult even for them.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by goerg »

OtomotO wrote: post #257
sivers wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…

What about banking Apps? No problem there? Some of them have ridiculous secur... compliance rules.

There is a list of compatible banking apps: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by dlenski »

Gigachad wrote: post #140
RachelF wrote: post #57

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I too, liked it. However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS. https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

I hate how common it's become for companies to force you to install things on your personal phone. Even worse is some of them demand you install a MDM profile on your personal phone which feels 1000% over the line of reasonable.

I've just refused to install such things on my phone.

You want me to have email and teams/slack on my phone? Sorry, I won't install the spyware. Want to pay for me to have a second phone with it? Okay. No? Well then, I just won't have email on my phone.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Gigachad »

dlenski wrote: post #266
Gigachad wrote: post #140

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I hate how common it's become for companies to force you to install things on your personal phone. Even worse is some of them demand you install a MDM profile on your personal phone which feels 1000% over the line of reasonable.

I've just refused to install such things on my phone. You want me to have email and teams/slack on my phone? Sorry, I won't install the spyware. Want to pay for me to have a second phone with it? Okay. No? Well then, I just won't have email on my phone.

Sure if you are in a strong stable position in life you can do that. The average person doesn’t want to rock the boat and cause troubles in their life so they install the invasive mdm profile.

It needs to be made illegal imo. The company should provide you a device if you need one for the job.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by microtonal »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #195

With Google making side loading extremely difficult soon, there's never been a better time to switch to a more secure OS for your phone. There are some apps I can't do without like ReThink DNS, NewPipe and other open source apps which I use regularly. All would get blocked under Googles new regime.

Rethink DNS is in the Play Store though:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.celzero.br...

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by microtonal »

mmooss wrote: post #207
eipi10_hn wrote: post #190

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You can't install Graphene OS on Samsung phones.

GOS won't install? It's blocked somehow? Or it's not officially supported?

It's not supported and you cannot unlock the bootloader most Samsung phones anymore (IIRC since OneUI 7).
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