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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by ajdude »

joe_mamba wrote: post #82
jordand wrote: post #32

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We took control, we're keeping control

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Years ago I looked into GrapheneOS, and I ultimately didn't go with it because, at least at the time, they only supported pixel phones (specifically pixel phones that Google actively had security updates for). I realized that if I got that OS, I would be at the mercy of Google supporting the device in order to continue using GrapheneOS.

In the end I just opted out of the android ecosystem altogether and went with a flip phone that I used as a hotspot for an iPod touch (we only used over VPN with locked down DNS and nothing google related).

My privacy lasted about two weeks, because unfortunately Spotify was able to fingerprint that device to Facebook.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by _carbyau_ »

RachelF wrote: post #57
jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

I too, liked it. However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS. https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

From the linked article it seems this is related to Entra accounts which are Azure cloud related.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by handedness »

lucb1e wrote: post #91
em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #29

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Presumably any new Android 17 features that aren't counter to GrapheneOS's mission, such as "Bubbles allows you to turn any app into a compact, floating window" https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android...

Does GrapheneOS run on tablets? I don't see a whole chat app (shown in the example) fitting on my phone screen alongside something like a web browser, and the screenshot is from a square screen

It's complicated. The Tensor G2 Pixel tablet was a solid device, and you can still buy it new from Google (with no choice on color or size in my country), but production has been discontinued and the two direct generational successors were canceled, in sequence. First it was skipping a generation, then it was canceling it entirely. The rumored "Pro" version also appears to have been axed.

I've used mine daily since it came out, and it's a great experience. I'd recommend picking it up for anyone who wants GOS on a larger screen. An iPad it isn't, but my iPad Pros have sat almost totally dormant since I got it years ago.

It lacks horsepower compared to the latest Pixel Pros, but that hasn't been a practical concern in anything I've done with it so far.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by theandrewbailey »

fooqux wrote: post #121
drnick1 wrote: post #108

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> I'm not looking to fully de-Google but I want Google as apps and not my OS. This is entirely possible as other posters have explained. But I think it kind of defeats the point of Graphene, at least somewhat. Google is already profiling every aspect of your life by reading your emails, files, calendar, location, etc? In that case, OS access becomes moot. I think that GrapheneOS makes most sense as part of a broader…

I agree and have moved mostly away from everything Google. But it's hard to replace maps. I know open street maps exists but it's hard to beat Google's data gathering.

I've been using HERE WeGo for almost a year. I had to install a text to speech engine in order to get voice directions. (I installed the GlaDOS one, now the evil computer tells me where to go.)

https://www.here.com/products/wego

https://here-wego.en.aptoide.com/app

https://k2-fsa.github.io/sherpa/onnx/tts/all/index.html

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by sneak »

ArmadilloGang wrote: post #102
Cider9986 wrote: post #42

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What does RFID-blocking wallet do?

People cannot steal your card info via proximity to your wallet over NFC if the wallet’s physical barrier blocks the RF signal.

People can't steal your card info via proximity to your wallet over NFC even without an RF blocking wallet. This is tinfoil hat security cargo culting, like putting tape over your webcam while leaving the laptop's microphone connected (audio from your room is much more useful than 2834823428 frames of your greasy face).

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by handedness »

Ingon wrote: post #61

I've been running GrapheneOS for over an year now. Bought a Pixel 6a last year as a cheap way to test waters, but pretty soon I upgraded to discounted Pixel 9. It took a while to set the basics (coming from iPhone), and I'm still have a couple of stuff missing, but at this point don't intend to use anything else (for as long as possible). The biggest hurdles for me were - should I use separate profiles and how to get…

I made the same mistake after being burned by the PinePhone, buying a heavily discounted Pixel 6 to test various Android forks, which eventually included GrapheneOS. I quickly knew I'd found home upgraded to a 9 Pro XL.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by fooqux »

handedness wrote: post #134
fooqux wrote: post #121

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I agree and have moved mostly away from everything Google. But it's hard to replace maps. I know open street maps exists but it's hard to beat Google's data gathering.

I've settled on running CoMaps in the Owner profile, with Google Maps/Waze/etc. in the Owner profile's Private Space for when they're necessary.

Can that setup work with android auto? If so, I'll need to try that.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by _carbyau_ »

jojobas wrote: post #128
hparadiz wrote: post #104

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It's infuriating that they won't do this for non Google Android. It's in the best interest of both the bank and the card owner. Credential theft risk goes down to basically zero when backed by a fingerprint authenticated virtual card.

Banks don't want the headache of supporting multiple weird phone OSes and it's understandable. As long as they don't require running an apple/google-certified device and OS I don't care.

> Banks don't want the headache of supporting multiple weird phone OSes and it's understandable.

Commercially, this makes sense.

I am surprised that most nations of the whole world are fine with every citizen relying on one of two american companies for their lifestyle interactions though. I would have thought more nations would legislate their banks must support other options for sheer sovereign resilience.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by WD-42 »

dakolli wrote: post #138
matheusmoreira wrote: post #106

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> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite difficult for me.

It still boggles my mind that the most popular privacy OS requires Google manufactured hardware, that fact alone makes me not trust it at all.

Phone hardware is a hellscape it doesn’t surprise me at all that they need to keep the number of supported devices small in order to deliver a decent product.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by lern_too_spel »

dakolli wrote: post #138
matheusmoreira wrote: post #106

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> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite difficult for me.

It still boggles my mind that the most popular privacy OS requires Google manufactured hardware, that fact alone makes me not trust it at all.

Despite Google's other failings, it was the OG supporter of data portability, and that spirit extends to its phones. No other phone manufacturer with wide distribution comes close. It's unfortunate that the people who design the hardware do such a poor job with the resources at their disposal.
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