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> Separately, Israel has a special immigration law for Jews This is the definition of apartheid. There are many other examples: https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/legal-rights-israe...
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It's easy to be very "moral" from far far away, yet I doubt you'd act differently if you were in Israel's shoes
There are many Israelis who conclude that their country is conducting a genocide in gaza and ask for it to stop [1]. Conversely, there are people who are "far far away", who have access to the same information as everybody else and don't see any wrong doing, and support the destruction of Gaza and its inhabitants. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can think this is right, or maybe they don't know or don't b…
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There's simply no excuse for what Israel has been doing and everyone with a functioning moral compass should be denouncing it. Debating about Hamas is a distraction. They have a right to defend their country, but not treating a whole population as collateral damage.
Wait, you mean there is “no excuse for what Israel is doing” and “Hamas kidnapping and murdering Israelis” was just a distraction? This is why we should just move on to EVs and stop getting involved at all in the Middle East. I see no morally right way of engaging with either side. Both positions seem to end in “let one side genocide the other side.”
Wait, you mean the same Hamas that Israel knowingly funded, the same one Netanyahu bragged about funding?
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"For years Netanyah propped up Hamas. Now it has blown up in our face."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
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"Netanyahu admits funding Hamas with $35m monthly Qatari cash."
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/netanyahu-admits-funding-h...
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Correct. Israel is committing genocide. > Hamas is resisting occupation This is definitely not true. The fact that you downplay what Palestine has been doing is wild.
Occupied people have a right to armed resistance.
They both want to kill each other. It's only that one side is winning.
Not sure why you need to mislead. It has been clear for 50 years at least.
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Occupied people have a right to armed resistance.
Palestine aims to annihilate Israel ... cue "from the river to the sea". They both want to kill each other. It's only that one side is winning. Not sure why you need to mislead. It has been clear for 50 years at least.
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Israel has a right to defend itself, but Palestine does not?
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If you want to know how we got where we are, look up Tantura.
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Israel has a right to defend itself, but Palestine does not?
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The Palestinians engaged in violent warfare against the Israelis studiously study the IRA and the results they got. So your example is actually an example that proves that the Palestinians' methods could lead to success for them. You'll have to try again.
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There's simply no excuse for what Israel has been doing and everyone with a functioning moral compass should be denouncing it. Debating about Hamas is a distraction. They have a right to defend their country, but not treating a whole population as collateral damage.
It's easy to be very "moral" from far far away, yet I doubt you'd act differently if you were in Israel's shoes
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I didn't misunderstand or get angry. You brought up people not protesting Palestine. I didn't insult you, belittle you, or anything else so I don't know why you would think I'm angry except you've just decided everyone who agrees with you is angry, which is a bad habit to have
You were definitely angry given your comment here "If you didn't want to discuss that, then you shouldn't have brought it up." If you weren't, we would just discuss normally without insulting that the other side didn't have intention to discuss in a discussion forum. So, somehow my comment angered you that you had to resort to the tactics of undermining the other side.