I wish I’d skipped my graduation ceremony as well. What a complete waste of time.
Not me. I always enjoy a nice opportunity to nap in front of a large crowd.
President material right here!
Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech
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In this seemingly forever argument, it seems there is some nuance in that Palestine is not Hamas and vice versa. One of the perspectives as I understand it is that Hamas is actually a threat to the existence of Palestine; the militaristic behaviour undermines Palestinian efforts at independence (and this is an avenue for exploitation by those who don't want to see an independent Palestine). It is a similar situation…
> One of the perspectives as I understand it is that Hamas is actually a threat to the existence of Palestine; Don't forget that Israel financially supported Hamas for this exact reason.
Why are there always so many conspiracy theories around the Israeli government. I mean, I'm sure one or two hold water. But the vast majority ...
And an even bigger mystery: why are there never conspiracy theories about hamas and the PLA? I mean, hamas is a conspiracy. There's no serious doubt about that. Obviously while there is a problem in Israel, Palestinians aren't behind hamas, unless they get very well paid. Many very bad state actors support Palestinian organizations, going back a loooong time. The PLA was created with the help of the KGB, imagine that. That's not a theory, that's a fact. Iran supports hamas. Qatar supports hamas. I mean, for hamas there's no doubt. It very much is a conspiracy, against Israel, against Jews (the KGB are the authors of "the protocols of the elders of zion" and the source of the whole Jews wanting to massacre the world theory) and against "the west" in general. China, massacres muslims and "reeducates" them in China, with hamas support btw, and supports hamas ... Do you think the KGB wants to support palestinians? Or muslims? Do you think China does? Do you think Iran wants to support Sunni religious nutcases? How do they treat those in Iran?
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A well established movement pushed by people who are first in the line to get the land, as opposed to the people they took that land from. It doesn't take long to come to the realization that everyone everywhere is on "stolen land".
So by this argument, we should just go defeat Israel and give the land back to the Palestinians and no one should have anything negative to say about it right?
Yes, that is correct.
Land ownership is determined by your ability to defend it. If you can get a coalition to take down Israel, the land is yours to do whatever you want with it. That is how it works, if you want land, have big guns or big friends.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
> One of the perspectives as I understand it is that Hamas is actually a threat to the existence of Palestine; Don't forget that Israel financially supported Hamas for this exact reason.
Why are there always so many conspiracy theories around the Israeli government. I mean, I'm sure one or two hold water. But the vast majority ... And an even bigger mystery: why are there never conspiracy theories about hamas and the PLA? I mean, hamas is a conspiracy. There's no serious doubt about that. Obviously while there is a problem in Israel, Palestinians aren't behind hamas, unless they get very well paid. M…
Not a conspiracy theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
A lot of shady stuff happens in the region. This is one of them and certainly something to be aware of.
> Do you think the KGB wants to support palestinians? Or muslims? Do you think China does? Do you think Iran wants to support Sunni religious nutcases? How do they treat those in Iran?
Why is it that every pro Israel comment is full of unrelated questions? My answer to all of these is: I don't care in this context.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this seemingly forever argument, it seems there is some nuance in that Palestine is not Hamas and vice versa. One of the perspectives as I understand it is that Hamas is actually a threat to the existence of Palestine; the militaristic behaviour undermines Palestinian efforts at independence (and this is an avenue for exploitation by those who don't want to see an independent Palestine). It is a similar situation…
There's simply no excuse for what Israel has been doing and everyone with a functioning moral compass should be denouncing it. Debating about Hamas is a distraction. They have a right to defend their country, but not treating a whole population as collateral damage.
It's easy to be very "moral" from far far away, yet I doubt you'd act differently if you were in Israel's shoes
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okay, but that is not the world that you live in. Many countries are religious and use religion to decide immigration.
I'm replying to a comment that says Muslims have equal rights to Jews in Israel and pointing out that is 100% incorrect. That is the world that we live in, the world where Israel is an apartheid state.
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Wait, you mean there is “no excuse for what Israel is doing” and “Hamas kidnapping and murdering Israelis” was just a distraction? This is why we should just move on to EVs and stop getting involved at all in the Middle East. I see no morally right way of engaging with either side. Both positions seem to end in “let one side genocide the other side.”
That’s not an excuse. Kidnapping is a police problem. Not a genocide problem.
Saying Israel is doing genocide is pure bs from uneducated people
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I'm replying to a comment that says Muslims have equal rights to Jews in Israel and pointing out that is 100% incorrect. That is the world that we live in, the world where Israel is an apartheid state.
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> Israeli Muslims have equal rights to Israeli Jews in Israel.
I just posted one of many laws that are explicitly in favor of Jews and exclude Muslims (and everyone else).
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So by this argument, we should just go defeat Israel and give the land back to the Palestinians and no one should have anything negative to say about it right?
Yes, that is correct. Land ownership is determined by your ability to defend it. If you can get a coalition to take down Israel, the land is yours to do whatever you want with it. That is how it works, if you want land, have big guns or big friends.
I'm sure this will come to fruition once the boomers are gone as everyone else is extremely anti-Israel.
Curious if you apply your "might makes right" logic to Nazis? By your argument they did nothing wrong, just exercised strength.