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Tech leaders from this era will not be remembered well.

I wonder which spectrum Steve Jobs would be on if he was still alive to this day.

Steve Jobs? The guy who was adopted by working class parents, a hippy, with a Syrian immigrant father? I think he might view the world slightly differently than the guys born into wealth, who went to Ivy League schools, and who all seemingly share the same total inability to understand ordinary human beings.

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Tech leaders from this era will not be remembered well.

Big difference between owners like Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Musk vs. Sundar Pichai.

In net worth maybe, but in what other ways are you claiming there are large differences?

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Seems this has more to do with Palestine and Google's involvement with Israel to provide cloud computing.

To me, this seems like a rather unfortunate indicator of the death in intellectualism in this country. Granted I recall having stances and an optimistic naivete after graduating college and positions that, while still broadly liberal and left-leaning, shifted notably over the decades since. However, it pains me a bit to see how much "essentialism" stands as an argument and way of understanding the world, even to graduates of a top-tier institution. The argument that the Israel/Palestine situation is "essentially" genocide, rather than a tragic and complicated reality where the precise characterization of the situation is debated immensely and relies on ones own biases and expanding or narrowing the definition of the term. The further argument that since Google does business with Israel, they are "essentially" complicit and supporters of aforementioned genocide.

Depending on one's biases, my previous statement will likely elicit some sort of reaction, especially to college grads of this generation, without me ever stating a position.

This all to me is a rather unfortunate place for academia and intellectualism to have landed in the past decades. Or was it always this bad? I don't think so, I do think that always-online and recommendation engines and gameification of social media has created an acceleration of this.

But it pains me to think about where this is evolving to, and how these graduates will navigate life in the extremely complicated, suboptimal, often hateful or self-interested world we live in, if this is where they get to after graduating from a top institution.

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Everyone loves the "free Palestine" slogan, but I've never actually seen the people who call it offer a concrete realistic solution that could achieve that - is it a two state solution? Is it a one state solution that will burst into a civil war? What's the plan? What does it actually look like? I still think a two state solution is the only realistic plan.

The reason a two state solution seems unworkable is because the people who were there, and had their land systematically taken from them, are considered to be the ones that have to compromise. The world panders to the colonisers, who despite having a huge amount of wealth and global support, always want more than they've already got.

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

#195

Seems this has more to do with Palestine and Google's involvement with Israel to provide cloud computing.

To me, this seems like a rather unfortunate indicator of the death in intellectualism in this country. Granted I recall having stances and an optimistic naivete after graduating college and positions that, while still broadly liberal and left-leaning, shifted notably over the decades since. However, it pains me a bit to see how much "essentialism" stands as an argument and way of understanding the world, even to grad…

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Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Counterpoint, he is Google top CEO by stock percentage gain and possibly by management. Pichai successfully focused (can't say "pivoted" to AI because they've long been a/the leader) Google on AI (compare to Microsoft) and streamlined many of Google's redundant/fruitless efforts.

If he was so good why did Brin have to come out of retirement to steer the ship? Remember, transformers were invented at Google. They could have been the first to market starving out OAI and Anthropic. That they did not is clearly a huge failure from Pichai. Its astonishing he wasn’t removed for this blunder.

Brin did not come out of retirement or steer the ship :-)

He probably came out of retirement because LLMs were showing promise to a life long dream.

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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okay, but that is not the world that you live in. Many countries are religious and use religion to decide immigration.

I'm replying to a comment that says Muslims have equal rights to Jews in Israel and pointing out that is 100% incorrect. That is the world that we live in, the world where Israel is an apartheid state.

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Yes Indigenous Americans should get their stolen land back. That’s a well established movement.

A well established movement pushed by people who are first in the line to get the land, as opposed to the people they took that land from. It doesn't take long to come to the realization that everyone everywhere is on "stolen land".

So by this argument, we should just go defeat Israel and give the land back to the Palestinians and no one should have anything negative to say about it right?

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Which part of the title indicates that everyone walked out? I assumed it was merely some of the cohort.

"Pentagon leaders disagree with DoD budget cuts." Technically, that just means at least two people at the Pentagon who qualify as leaders disagreed. But it seems like broad opinion.

It might seem like a broad opinion, but that’s the reader’s own opinion either being reinforced or rejected by a single line of text.

The reader may wish the disagreement wasn’t documented at all, because it doesn’t meet their own personal editorial standards, and they like telling someone they don’t pay how to do their jobs.

But factually, there’s nothing incorrect about what was observed and reported.

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