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Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

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> Reopening the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days "under Iranian arrangements" Oh my goodness. So it stays closed for the better part of a month (or more, who knows), then opens up with each ship paying Iran for passage. I very much look forward to how this will be spun as some kind of a "win" for the United States.

I imagine: "Under Biden we would have surrendered to Iran and then the world would be destroyed by an alien probe looking for humpback whale sounds."

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post #105

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I would bet considerable sums of money that this deal is also not going to do anything for the Iranian people.

It actually does, how about not dying from US/Israeli bombs? People tend to forget there is a human cost to this and not only oil and money involved. There are 3.5k people dead in Iran many more injured. The US killed indian sailors in the last couple of days, guess the remaining ones will be happy to not live with this danger.

They were not dying from those bombs before the war

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#163

It's the last bump before I liquidate all my stocks. I predict that the crash will come at the end or the beginning of the next president which is likely democrat. Not that it's democrat's fault but democrat is more disciplined

Time in the market beats timing the market, bears have predicted (large number) out of the last (smaller number) recessions, etc. None of this is novel. "Predicting" a stock crash due to political reasons is effectively just a fancy restatement of anti-those-politics views; and it isn't substantive, especially when the prediction comes with a years-long window.

You need to caveat this with "... if you want to be lazy and ignorant of your port." Otherwise there is so, so much evidence that it is flat wrong.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

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…plus iran gets $300bn in reconstruction money

Also... The US' limitations in its ability to project power have been exposed. Having American bases in the middle east has been shown to be nothing but a liability for host countries. And Iran has proven that it can withstand anything the US is willing to throw at it, and hit back hard, over a relatively prolonged period. And Iran has shown that its constitution is strong and power succession is effective even after…

> And Iran has proven that it can withstand anything the US is willing to throw at it

Also, the idiot in the WH, single handedly turned Iran's many anti-regime citizens to pro-regime and patriotic.

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That's like 2.5 years from now--you don't think crash will happen before then?

I think it may happen before then. That's why I'm thinking of liquidating it soon-ish. Trump is doing too much crazy things. He cannot prop up the market for that long. I plan to put most of the money in US t-bill (4 week) to earn 3% for now.

Check out spring of 2020. Rate cuts and QE if he can get control of the Fed.

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> a former member of the parliament of Iran He wasn't a member at the time of those statements nor did he have any involvement in their nuclear program. That's misleading to say the least. Ali Motahari—former member of Iran’s Parliament—clarified that the interview dates back to May 2022, when he neither held a parliamentary seat nor any official role in nuclear affairs. [0] So besides a single guy in Iran, are there…

> "conclude that they were not developing nukes." You're misreading your own sources. The 2007 NIE and Gabbard's 2025 testimony both describe a nuclear weapons program that Iran "suspended in 2003". They confirm a nuclear weapons program existed, the opposite of what you're claiming. And you want an official source: the IAEA concluded in May 2025 that Iran ran an "undeclared structured nuclear program" until the earl…

I never swapped claims. We're talking about nuclear weapons and why the US started a war with Iran this year due to this supposed "crisis" (in your words) but there's no evidence that a threat is imminent. The NIEs were just one data point against your claim; the burden is still on you to show who else agrees with the assesment that this is a crisis.

> IAEA concluded in May 2025 that Iran ran an "undeclared structured nuclear program" until the early 2000s

"nuclear program" is not the same as a weapons program and the IAEA sounding alarm bells over policy violations is not a conclusion that Iran is/was on a nuclear warpath.

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#167

I don’t know how this is worse for the US or the World. Iran’s leadership and military was decapitated. It’s in the best interest of US, Europe and Israel and the Middle East. The nuclear program had a huge setback. What are the counter arguments to these facts if we really end up in peace with Iran along with the bad actors gone too?

Are the bad actors gone?

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#168
post #90

We had a once in a lifetime opportunity to completely destroy the theocratic regime and we did not finish the job. This "deal" (or what transpired of it) is pathetic and will only allow the mullahs to rearm and come back stronger in the future. We will live to regret not resuming combat operations and weakening the regime until it isn't a threat to anyone.

That would require an invading force. Not worth it when we could keep Iran isolated and under sanctions and under nuclear inspections by doing nothing.

They're pretty good at projecting power in the region though.

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post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would bet considerable sums of money that this deal is also not going to do anything for the Iranian people.

It actually does, how about not dying from US/Israeli bombs? People tend to forget there is a human cost to this and not only oil and money involved. There are 3.5k people dead in Iran many more injured. The US killed indian sailors in the last couple of days, guess the remaining ones will be happy to not live with this danger.

That's just restoring the status quo ante.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time in the market beats timing the market, bears have predicted (large number) out of the last (smaller number) recessions, etc. None of this is novel. "Predicting" a stock crash due to political reasons is effectively just a fancy restatement of anti-those-politics views; and it isn't substantive, especially when the prediction comes with a years-long window.

You need to caveat this with "... if you want to be lazy and ignorant of your port." Otherwise there is so, so much evidence that it is flat wrong.

Yeah, meanwhile all the wealthy people actively manage their port with an insane amount of efforts. They would compensate hedge fund manager with insane amount of money.

Then, they turn around and tell average people to forget about the investment. Just park your money in the index fund over the long run. I mean, if you are either stupid or don't have time, then yeah please only do index fund.

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