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US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

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Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#122

I wonder how the stock markets will react tomorrow. I know someone who turned $6k into $150k by buying options on war related news. The logic is that the markets will almost certainly go up, so bet big at a time like this. It sounded like an easy way to lose $6k, but maybe the upside is worth the risk. I don’t have any experience to know whether this is a sufficiently good bet though.

Institutional investors get to trade outside of hours that most ordinary people can't; presuming that this is net positive for markets, they will already be up when the bell rings.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#123

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I think the Obama prize was just a reaction to how terrible the Bush administration was, not that he actually deserved it.

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Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

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Obama's agreement didn't stop enrichment, leading to the current crisis.

It did though? Trump pulled out of the deal in his first term and then Iran enriched from 3%.

JCPOA only had temporary enrichment limits, which would end in 2030, after which Iran could enrich freely. It did not permanently stop enrichment.

If JCPOA was followed by both Iran and the US to the letter, we would face a similar crisis to the one seen today, except around 2031-2035.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obama's agreement didn't stop enrichment, leading to the current crisis.

It did to weapons grade. It only permitted enrichment for energy purposes. And was validated by inspections. The current crisis is entirely because Trump trashed that agreement in the first place.

...and then you woke up and realised that Iran never allowed those inspectors to inspect the actually important facilities and started removing inspectors from the country in 2023 under Biden.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/iaea-director-...

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did to weapons grade. It only permitted enrichment for energy purposes. And was validated by inspections. The current crisis is entirely because Trump trashed that agreement in the first place.

...and then you woke up and realised that Iran never allowed those inspectors to inspect the actually important facilities and started removing inspectors from the country in 2023 under Biden. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/iaea-director-...

Biden was elected _after_ Trump broke the deal so it's unclear why you think that tells us anything about what would have happened had the United States honored the treaty.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#128

It's the last bump before I liquidate all my stocks. I predict that the crash will come at the end or the beginning of the next president which is likely democrat. Not that it's democrat's fault but democrat is more disciplined

Time in the market beats timing the market, bears have predicted (large number) out of the last (smaller number) recessions, etc. None of this is novel. "Predicting" a stock crash due to political reasons is effectively just a fancy restatement of anti-those-politics views; and it isn't substantive, especially when the prediction comes with a years-long window.

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#129

What are the odds of the optimal deal being reached on Trump's birthday (Eastern Time)? Who knows, maybe US stalled before, and/or gave a little extra concession to conclude today.

You are probably right it was timed deliberately this way, this is why the Iranians also didn't rush it ...

> Iran waited until the clock passed midnight local time to finalize the agreement, because it did not want the momentous occasion to coincide with President Trump’s birthday on Sunday, according to two Iranian officials who could not be identified because of the matter’s sensitivity. The seven-and-half-hour time difference allowed both Tehran and Washington to claim their preferred version of when the deal was finalized. President Trump had said it would be on Sunday, and Iran had said it would be on a later day.[0]

[0]https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/14/world/iran-war-trump...

Re: US and Iran announce deal to end military operations

#130

So basically the Obama agreement that Trump trashed. Only now people had to die to get to this point.

…plus iran gets $300bn in reconstruction money

Also...

The US' limitations in its ability to project power have been exposed. Having American bases in the middle east has been shown to be nothing but a liability for host countries. And Iran has proven that it can withstand anything the US is willing to throw at it, and hit back hard, over a relatively prolonged period.

And Iran has shown that its constitution is strong and power succession is effective even after a massive decapitation strike. There was seemingly zero turmoil, control appears to have been maintained without issue.

And Iran's non nuclear option of controlling the strait has been tested andd shown to be highly effective.

And Iran has gained significant operational experience with its massive stores of drones and missles.

And the US has lost multiple billion dollar intelligence installations in the region.

And Americans have been made aware of the Israel lobby like never before, and Trump is in a very difficult position heading into the midterms.

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