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>"The wolf is here and will attack the flock tonight." How is that not what they are saying? "GPT-2 XL is here and if we released it the flock would be attacked tonight." Each time it plays out where the public eventually gets access to a model it turns out the flock is still there in the morning.
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That is a strawman. My contention is what you just implicitly acknowledged - there is not information put out yet to validate the quoted claim. There are claims to the contrary, as well, from Anthropic themselves.
In the absence of information, maybe it’s better to ask which claim is more extraordinary. That, A. Anthropic solved the llm jailbreak problem with mythos (despite no claim to have done so on their part) B. That a full jailbreak of mythos is possible.
Anthropic’s claims are as follows if you read their post:
* this is not a universal jailbreak method
* the jailbreak affords you the same capabilities you get already with other models, not Mythos.
In this situation it’s which party do you trust more and history would suggest this administration is very playful with the truth, especially when it comes to economically damaging the company that’s become their political enemy
The only thing I can think of that would give Amazon reasons to dislike Mythos / Fable is that Anthropic really ruined their Bedrock story by imposing data retention requirements that cross a red line in regulatory compliance. It's just possible that Jassy would rather have nobody use Fable than doing it on the basis of, effectively, a direct data trust relationship with Anthropic. It is hard to plug it together into…
I know everyones excited about Football and the Knicks, but this is far more exciting and interesting than any sport could be.
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Interesting point. Just a small correction, the Anthropic stake is higher. ($13B + another $20B option if they hit certain milestones, which I believe is almost guaranteed) So it's closer to $33B In any case, there is no reason for them to purposefully hurt Anthropic. I would say that this government "takedown" of Mythos is great free advertising. I mean, if you look at this, they said it's too risky to launch, we al…
You seem to assume rational actors. Bezos et. al. are definitely not that.
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That is a strawman. My contention is what you just implicitly acknowledged - there is not information put out yet to validate the quoted claim. There are claims to the contrary, as well, from Anthropic themselves.
In the absence of information, maybe it’s better to ask which claim is more extraordinary. That, A. Anthropic solved the llm jailbreak problem with mythos (despite no claim to have done so on their part) B. That a full jailbreak of mythos is possible.
There is information, from Anthropic, concerning the jailbreaks that motivated this action, that directly contradicts the statement.
There is just an absence of information backing the statement I responded to.
I find it so odd this is apparently so contentious a take.
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Ok, but then the government's argumentation doesn't make sense? If the reason for shutting it down is that it's dangerous, only shutting it down for non US citizens doesn't solve the problem.
This sort of thing has been done before - for encryption - and many physical products like missiles. If you sell a missile to someone in the US they're accountable to US law but if you export one then US law stops at the border and nothing stops them firing it at Washington with impunity.
So I logged into the Claude Code and their fabled Fable 5 model is "not available". Because it's "so good" and "so dangerous" that I can't have it. Judging by the amount of bugs in CC, this model can't be all that good. But regardless, what is the point of paying to Anthropic if their models are not available to you? I am switching to GPT 5.5.