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Cash back is huge for people expensing rides. “Spend company money on us, and take your personal rides every once in a while for free.” Same model as airlines.

I see this constantly in my industry. Mid-level managers (and above) are always trying to max travel miles on company expense. If I ran my own company (dream!), I would never allow employees to reap "travel miles" from travel paid for by the company. It is ridiculous.

In Germany those things are taxed!

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No, if the pedestrian walks out in the known-dangerour street without so much as a glance, not a crosswalk, that is categorically not the cars fault. Idiots are gonna idiots. Just like all the cyclists that get hit around here for not obeying stop signs. ALL users of the road are responsible for following the rules. Not being in a car isn't a "I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, whyever I want" pass.

If you walk around yielding a knife, and you accidentally walk into someone who wasn’t paying attention, it is definitely your fault. If you drive a car and accidentally drive into someone who isn’t paying attention, that is also on you. You are holding the bigger weapon. That means you have the higher requirement for safety, imho. I track cars and race, fwiw, so it’s not like I don’t like cars.

When someone steps out 10ft in front of a car doing 30mph all the attentiveness and safety devices in the world won't make a difference. It's simple physics.

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Like I said earlier, this technology does not exist. And even if it did, the infrastructure required for everyone to own and operate such a car would be orders of magnitude more expensive and much much much politically harder choice to approve then to build out public transit and to provide access services.

They specifically referred to it as a "waymo". Everyone wouldn't own one, they would hire one for the trip, like you can already do with a non-autonomous rental car for a cross-country trip.

Own or rent one, doesn’t matter, my point still stands. Access vans, busses, trains, plains, etc. are all technology which exists. Worst case your state can subsidize you a hired assistant with a drivers license who can do the driving. These are all technologies which exist today, and are available to mobility impaired individuals in many parts of the world. Only extremely limited areas have a "waymo" available and only for a limited number of trips. The former can be implemented as soon as there is a political will (and already has been implemented in many parts of the world) while the latter requires faith in a technology that does not exist yet.

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If you walk around yielding a knife, and you accidentally walk into someone who wasn’t paying attention, it is definitely your fault. If you drive a car and accidentally drive into someone who isn’t paying attention, that is also on you. You are holding the bigger weapon. That means you have the higher requirement for safety, imho. I track cars and race, fwiw, so it’s not like I don’t like cars.

When someone steps out 10ft in front of a car doing 30mph all the attentiveness and safety devices in the world won't make a difference. It's simple physics.

I agree, of course. That is far from the most common scenario.

In the most common scenario, it is the driver’s fault.

Of course there are exceptions to everything.

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When someone steps out 10ft in front of a car doing 30mph all the attentiveness and safety devices in the world won't make a difference. It's simple physics.

I agree, of course. That is far from the most common scenario. In the most common scenario, it is the driver’s fault. Of course there are exceptions to everything.

It's happened 3 times so far this year in my town of <100k.

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I agree, of course. That is far from the most common scenario. In the most common scenario, it is the driver’s fault. Of course there are exceptions to everything.

It's happened 3 times so far this year in my town of <100k.

Out of how many pedestrian-vehicle collisions?

Anyway, I am not saying it never happens.

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It's happened 3 times so far this year in my town of <100k.

Out of how many pedestrian-vehicle collisions? Anyway, I am not saying it never happens.

Drunk college kids acting stupid are like 80% if pedestrian accidents.

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Out of how many pedestrian-vehicle collisions? Anyway, I am not saying it never happens.

Drunk college kids acting stupid are like 80% if pedestrian accidents.

Yes, and if you’re driving late at night near a college campus I’d recommend slowing down and being extra careful.

College kids are allowed to get drunk and act stupid.

You are still not allowed to hit them.

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$100 per month is way, way too cheap for unlimited rides. That's about 10x cheaper than the amortized monthly cost for owning an average car, without the headache of doing maintenance. They'd be losing a ton of money on each subscriber.

Yes and most people use their car for around 2% of the time they own it. The rest of the time it’s parked up.

That's not a reason for Waymo to give rides at a major loss. Heavy users are the ones that are going to buy the unlimited package. If you do just one average trip per day (there and back), at about $20 per ride, their regular price will cost you about $1200/month. A heavy user might use several times that. Do you think Waymo currently has 10-20x profit margins? If they're were able to drop their price by that much, they could also afford to drop their non-subscription price by 10x and take over the taxi/rideshare market.

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Probably not. If you need to walk a mile, that’s a feature, not a bug. Of course, if you need to walk multiple miles, that’s a different story.

While I enjoy going for a walk (and will gladly walk four miles as a leisure activity), I don't enjoy wanting to go somewhere and needing to budget an extra hour (or more) for the extra two miles of walking each way, possibly in bad weather. It's like saying the buses always running a half hour late is a feature because it gives you some time to read.

Walking a mile should take 15-20 minutes.

If the streets are very busy, the pollution bad, the tunnels smell like piss etc, then that is the problem.

Small amounts of moderate exercise every day are a lot better than going to the gym (by car, usually) for a hard workout.

I’d rather read a book on the sofa, but you can’t walk while sitting on the sofa.

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