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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by seizethecheese »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #185
boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

Don't tell me... you are a man? I guess so. How many middle class women and above want to ride SFMuni after dark? Few. The future of self-driving taxis is women (customers) who want to live in a big city, but don't want to ride mass transit, nor ride in a ride-hailing services (Uber, etc.) with a human driver... because most drivers are men.

This kind of gender politics is tiresome. You could easily point out that for women public transit is untenable after dark instead of bringing the OP’s identity into it.

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Post by nonethewiser »

crooked-v wrote: post #178
nonethewiser wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone help me put this into context? $30/month is way cheaper than $104/month. How would you compare the base metrics? Time to start traveling, average walk amount per trip, total trip duration, coverage parity, etc. I suspect you can get into a waymo quicker and with less walking than a subway, unless you live very close. I imagine total trip time is pretty variable. Coverage parity is hard to guess about - in…

It's $30/month for these extras . You're still paying per trip, just with a de facto 10% off.

Oh I missed that. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by throwaway2037 »

gopalv wrote: post #164
boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

> me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. Most of my Waymo rides were from or to a BART station - the real utility of these services is to pull a last mile when I don't have a car. There's no better way of getting out of Powell out of the traffic deadlock at 5 PM than BART. But once you get south of Daly City, there's no timed connections for the surface streets. If you need to go to Brisbane from Powell…

This is a great post. Very practical.

This part:

    > If you need to go to Brisbane from Powell, the 2 mile car ride is worth the effect.
I checked Google Maps. I don't see any BART stations that are only 2 miles (3 km) from downtown Brisbane (California). What I am missing? Or are you taking Caltrain, then getting an Uber from 4th and King Caltrain terminal to Powell?

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by 0xffff2 »

defen wrote: post #173
Rumudiez wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's crazy. my 2005 volvo, 1991 nissan, and 1986 toyota altogether cost me a little over $1k per year (mostly insurance) and it was less than $10k total to buy them all. goes to show average financial literacy in the US. people won't save a few grand for a used car (or take out a small loan even!) and then pay 10x the cost for new

How much liability coverage are you getting for ~ $100/month? In other words if you injure or kill someone with your vehicle how much of that cost will be covered by your insurance company? With Waymo the answer is "not my problem".

I pay ~100/month per car for full coverage on two fairly new cars and $500k in liability from the auto policy plus a $1m umbrella policy. And that's in CA which is comically expensive. I find it very believable that you can get excellent liability only coverage on 3 cars for $100/month depending on the state and drivers.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by shostack »

crooked-v wrote: post #178
nonethewiser wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone help me put this into context? $30/month is way cheaper than $104/month. How would you compare the base metrics? Time to start traveling, average walk amount per trip, total trip duration, coverage parity, etc. I suspect you can get into a waymo quicker and with less walking than a subway, unless you live very close. I imagine total trip time is pretty variable. Coverage parity is hard to guess about - in…

It's $30/month for these extras . You're still paying per trip, just with a de facto 10% off.

10% off is practically nothing and also irrelevant because it is the total cost of the trip that matters and they can easily increase that over time behind the scenes in a way that makes up for that 10% and then some once they determine the price elasticity of these premium customers which I imagine is quite higher.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by throwaway2037 »

vidarh wrote: post #152
boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

I take public transport a lot and walk a lot (I live 3h walk from central London - I know because I've walked it, for fun), but I still also use Uber regularly because sometimes I simply don't have time. If I lived in the centre I probably would have very little use for it, but for people even slightly outside the core of cities well served by public transport, it's usually nice to have options.

    > I live 3h walk from central London - I know because I've walked it, for fun
This sounds like a great blog post! Or you can collab with https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by smlacy »

postalrat wrote: post #227
tjoff wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of assumed the car would be locked (from the outside)? Like most regular cars have the option to.

Do you think sitting inside you will be protected if someone has a gun?

So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by csa »

smy20011 wrote: post #15

It will pay for itself if you spend >300$ per month. I personally wish Waymo have a 399$ per month subscription that give 2 free ride per day so I don't need to own a car just for work.

> I personally wish Waymo have a 399$ per month subscription that give 2 free ride per day

Assuming $20 for a typical paid trip, I’m guessing $800 would be closer to what they would charge for 2 free rides a day within SF.

$400 might be were it ends up when it’s widely adopted and a mature product — probably in the “budget” category of a segmented market.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by throwaway2037 »

philip1209 wrote: post #53

Cash back is huge for people expensing rides. “Spend company money on us, and take your personal rides every once in a while for free.” Same model as airlines.

I see this constantly in my industry. Mid-level managers (and above) are always trying to max travel miles on company expense. If I ran my own company (dream!), I would never allow employees to reap "travel miles" from travel paid for by the company. It is ridiculous.
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